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From: Laurie Kamrowski
Date: Mon, Aug 12 2019 10:49AM
Subject: Classroom Media Playback accessibility
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I tried to google this topic but I don't even know where to start. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

I work at a college and we are trying to ensure that we are accessible as
possible, not just meeting criteria. We currently have a media library of
various films, documentaries, etc... for viewing anywhere on campus, but we
were told that we had to have all titles with the subtitles burned into the
file themselves. That's not difficult for us, but if we do that - we can
only burn them in with one language, typically English. However, if we
don't burn the titles in directly, so that we can actively switch between
any language on the fly - we were told that this would fail accessibility
criteria. Like I said, we're trying to meet the needs of any and every
student that we can, and it seems counter intuitive to directly burn the
subtitles into the the playback.

Thank you so much,

Laurie Kamrowski
Mid Michigan College
http://www.midmich.edu

From: Chanel Carlascio
Date: Mon, Aug 12 2019 11:08AM
Subject: Re: Classroom Media Playback accessibility
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I’ve never heard that captioning in multiple languages would fail
accessibility but I have a lot to learn still. I haven’t read this in a
while, but the DCMP has a captioning key that lays out all the standards. I
would start there. https://www.captioningkey.org/quality_captioning.html

--
Chanel Carlascio

On August 12, 2019 at 9:49:16 AM, Laurie Kamrowski ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
wrote:

> I tried to google this topic but I don't even know where to start. Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> I work at a college and we are trying to ensure that we are accessible as
> possible, not just meeting criteria. We currently have a media library of
> various films, documentaries, etc... for viewing anywhere on campus, but
> we
> were told that we had to have all titles with the subtitles burned into
> the
> file themselves. That's not difficult for us, but if we do that - we can
> only burn them in with one language, typically English. However, if we
> don't burn the titles in directly, so that we can actively switch between
> any language on the fly - we were told that this would fail accessibility
> criteria. Like I said, we're trying to meet the needs of any and every
> student that we can, and it seems counter intuitive to directly burn the
> subtitles into the the playback.
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Laurie Kamrowski
> Mid Michigan College
> http://www.midmich.edu
> > > > >

From: Laurie Kamrowski
Date: Mon, Aug 12 2019 11:08AM
Subject: Re: Classroom Media Playback accessibility
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I am also looking over W3C's multimedia accessibility FAQ
https://www.w3.org/2008/06/video-notes#q1 but I am not seeing anything that
states the media has to have the titles burned in. It's only requesting a
transcript.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 12:49 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> I tried to google this topic but I don't even know where to start. Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> I work at a college and we are trying to ensure that we are accessible as
> possible, not just meeting criteria. We currently have a media library of
> various films, documentaries, etc... for viewing anywhere on campus, but we
> were told that we had to have all titles with the subtitles burned into the
> file themselves. That's not difficult for us, but if we do that - we can
> only burn them in with one language, typically English. However, if we
> don't burn the titles in directly, so that we can actively switch between
> any language on the fly - we were told that this would fail accessibility
> criteria. Like I said, we're trying to meet the needs of any and every
> student that we can, and it seems counter intuitive to directly burn the
> subtitles into the the playback.
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Laurie Kamrowski
> Mid Michigan College
> http://www.midmich.edu
>
>

From: Laura Fathauer
Date: Mon, Aug 12 2019 11:47AM
Subject: Re: Classroom Media Playback accessibility
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You're talking the different between open (burned-in) and closed (able to
be turned on and off) captioning. Most captions are closed; both are
accessible for deaf viewers, and WCAG does not specify a requirement for
open or closed. With closed, many media players offer font/color/size
customization. Open captions obviously cannot be customized by the media
player, as they get burned-in to the video itself.

Laura


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:08 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I am also looking over W3C's multimedia accessibility FAQ
> https://www.w3.org/2008/06/video-notes#q1 but I am not seeing anything
> that
> states the media has to have the titles burned in. It's only requesting a
> transcript.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 12:49 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > I tried to google this topic but I don't even know where to start. Any
> > suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > I work at a college and we are trying to ensure that we are accessible as
> > possible, not just meeting criteria. We currently have a media library of
> > various films, documentaries, etc... for viewing anywhere on campus, but
> we
> > were told that we had to have all titles with the subtitles burned into
> the
> > file themselves. That's not difficult for us, but if we do that - we can
> > only burn them in with one language, typically English. However, if we
> > don't burn the titles in directly, so that we can actively switch between
> > any language on the fly - we were told that this would fail accessibility
> > criteria. Like I said, we're trying to meet the needs of any and every
> > student that we can, and it seems counter intuitive to directly burn the
> > subtitles into the the playback.
> >
> > Thank you so much,
> >
> > Laurie Kamrowski
> > Mid Michigan College
> > http://www.midmich.edu
> >
> >
> > > > >

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Mon, Aug 12 2019 11:47AM
Subject: Re: Classroom Media Playback accessibility
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Hi Laura, burning the captions in would make them less accessible as users could not adjust the size, color, and other aspects of the captions through user styles. WCAG allows for both open or closed captions -- but unless there is some compelling reason why closed captions could fail to load they would be preferable compared to burnt in open captions.

Jonathan

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I tried to google this topic but I don't even know where to start. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I work at a college and we are trying to ensure that we are accessible as possible, not just meeting criteria. We currently have a media library of various films, documentaries, etc... for viewing anywhere on campus, but we were told that we had to have all titles with the subtitles burned into the file themselves. That's not difficult for us, but if we do that - we can only burn them in with one language, typically English. However, if we don't burn the titles in directly, so that we can actively switch between any language on the fly - we were told that this would fail accessibility criteria. Like I said, we're trying to meet the needs of any and every student that we can, and it seems counter intuitive to directly burn the subtitles into the the playback.

Thank you so much,

Laurie Kamrowski
Mid Michigan College
http://www.midmich.edu