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Re: mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible expandablemenu?

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From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Nov 8, 2009 1:10PM

Geof,

JAWS application mode will be come more common as HTML5 and ARIA markup is used more and more on the web.

As developers continue to create more desktop type user interface controls on web, pages will need to use ARIA or HTML5 to describe the types and features of these web widgets and screen readers will need to support the markup to make these widgets accessible.

It would be nice for people using assistive technologies if web technologies would just stay the same, so assistive technology could become more stable and web developers more familiar with accessible design. But that is not the nature of the web, technologies will continue to evolve and new accessibility solution strategies will need to be developed and implemented. I wish there was an easy answer to your dilemma of needing to upgrade JAWS.

Jon



---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:34:44 -0500
>From: Geof Collis < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible expandablemenu?
>To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>
>Hi John
>
>What good is that? It took me 7 years just to be able to upgrae to
>10.0 it will take that long again just to upgrade, am I supposed to wait?
>
>Also, I have never heard of applications mode, I found it frustrating
>and if I run into it I'll just close down the page and leave, how
>many others will do the same?
>
>cheers
>
>Geof
>
>
>At 01:14 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
>>Application mode you use the javascript keyboard support to navigate
>>the menu. I will try it with Jaws 11 and 10 on Monday. My guess it
>>will do much better with Jaws 11 which has extensively improved ARIA support.
>>
>>Jon
>>
>>
>>---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:52:02 -0500
>> >From: Geof Collis < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible
>> expandablemenu?
>> >To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> >
>> >Hi John
>> >
>> >I dont know what you've done but it messes up JAWS real bad. I
>> >checked the 2 examples and somewhere down the page JAWS goes into a
>> >mode I've never heard before, applications mode. When it is in this
>> >mode I cant navigate anywhere and have to close the page. I'm
>> using JAWS 10.0
>> >
>> >cheers
>> >
>> >Geof
>> >
>> >At 12:02 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
>> >>Here is an example using ARIA markup:
>> >>http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/menubar/menubar1.php
>> >>
>> >>Jon
>> >>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
>> >>Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
>> >>Disability Resources and Educational Services
>> >>
>> >>Rehabilitation Education Center
>> >>Room 86
>> >>1207 S. Oak Street
>> >>Champaign, Illinois 61820
>> >>
>> >>Voice: (217) 244-5870
>> >>
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