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Re: mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible expandablemenu?

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From: Geof Collis
Date: Nov 8, 2009 1:20PM

Hi John

I wish JAWS would stay relatively the same as well, I have new
features that drive me nuts an I cant turn them off, at least I cant
find out where to turn them off if it is even possible.

I think the solution to your second point is to make them degrade
gracefully. :O) I know many people who are still using lower versions
than mine and wont be upgrading any time soon.

I'm all for progress, I have started incorporating Rol Landmarks in
my sites even though not many are aware of them or can appreciate
them, so I still offer a skip link for those who need them.

cheers

Geof



At 03:09 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
>Geof,
>
>JAWS application mode will be come more common as HTML5 and ARIA
>markup is used more and more on the web.
>
>As developers continue to create more desktop type user interface
>controls on web, pages will need to use ARIA or HTML5 to describe
>the types and features of these web widgets and screen readers will
>need to support the markup to make these widgets accessible.
>
>It would be nice for people using assistive technologies if web
>technologies would just stay the same, so assistive technology could
>become more stable and web developers more familiar with accessible
>design. But that is not the nature of the web, technologies will
>continue to evolve and new accessibility solution strategies will
>need to be developed and implemented. I wish there was an easy
>answer to your dilemma of needing to upgrade JAWS.
>
>Jon
>
>
>
>---- Original message ----
> >Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:34:44 -0500
> >From: Geof Collis < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible
> expandablemenu?
> >To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >
> >Hi John
> >
> >What good is that? It took me 7 years just to be able to upgrae to
> >10.0 it will take that long again just to upgrade, am I supposed to wait?
> >
> >Also, I have never heard of applications mode, I found it frustrating
> >and if I run into it I'll just close down the page and leave, how
> >many others will do the same?
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >Geof
> >
> >
> >At 01:14 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
> >>Application mode you use the javascript keyboard support to navigate
> >>the menu. I will try it with Jaws 11 and 10 on Monday. My guess it
> >>will do much better with Jaws 11 which has extensively improved
> ARIA support.
> >>
> >>Jon
> >>
> >>
> >>---- Original message ----
> >> >Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:52:02 -0500
> >> >From: Geof Collis < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] mouseover/hover and keyboard accessible
> >> expandablemenu?
> >> >To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi John
> >> >
> >> >I dont know what you've done but it messes up JAWS real bad. I
> >> >checked the 2 examples and somewhere down the page JAWS goes into a
> >> >mode I've never heard before, applications mode. When it is in this
> >> >mode I cant navigate anywhere and have to close the page. I'm
> >> using JAWS 10.0
> >> >
> >> >cheers
> >> >
> >> >Geof
> >> >
> >> >At 12:02 PM 11/8/2009, you wrote:
> >> >>Here is an example using ARIA markup:
> >> >>http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/menubar/menubar1.php
> >> >>
> >> >>Jon
> >> >>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
> >> >>Coordinator Information Technology Accessibility
> >> >>Disability Resources and Educational Services
> >> >>
> >> >>Rehabilitation Education Center
> >> >>Room 86
> >> >>1207 S. Oak Street
> >> >>Champaign, Illinois 61820
> >> >>
> >> >>Voice: (217) 244-5870
> >> >>
> >> >>WWW: http://www.cita.illinois.edu/
> >> >>WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/
> >> >>
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