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From: David Ashleydale
Date: Jul 12, 2011 11:30AM

Great, thanks! I wasn't aware that arrowing down was a different behavior in
PDFs than web sites.

So the conclusion is that the PDF is tagged correctly -- I just need to
navigate it in a different way than I was doing it. Ctrl+Down Arrow worked
perfectly.

Thanks!
David

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Keith < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Actually, if you're simply arrowing down, you'll only be reading one
> line for each press of the arrow key.
>
> If you want to read the entire paragraph at one press of a key, you'll
> need to use the key combination: ctrl+down arrow. If the pdf is
> formatted correctly, you can also try the single Jaws hot key of "P", to
> move by paragraph.
>
> If you want to read by sentence, try: alt+down arrow. Although, I have
> mixed luck with that one, but it's supposed to work.
>
> from
> Keith H
>
>
> On 7/11/2011 6:02 PM, David Ashleydale wrote:
> > I've attached a simple PDF I just made that demonstrates this. There is
> only
> > one paragraph in the document and it has been tagged as a paragraph.
> >
> > I have JAWS 12 on and I go to the top of the page. I hit Down Arrow and
> it
> > reads the first line. It stops reading at the line break and waits for me
> to
> > hit the Down Arrow again before continuing.
> >
> > Is this the normal default behavior, or is there a different way I need
> to
> > tag the PDF so that it doesn't stop reading at the end of the line in the
> > middle of a sentence?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:29 PM, David Ashleydale< <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> The PDF is tagged. I don't have a copy that I can show you right now,
> >> unfortunately. But using the text I wrote earlier as an example, that
> whole
> >> paragraph shows up in the tag tree as one paragraph. When I choose the
> >> "Highlight Content" option for the Tags, and then click on that
> paragraph in
> >> the tag tree, the whole paragraph highlights in the document.
> >>
> >> However, when I listen to it with JAWS 12, it pauses at the end of each
> >> line, even though the whole thing is all in one paragraph tag.
> >>
> >> Note: no pausing occurs when I tell JAWS to just read the entire
> document
> >> from top to bottom. It does that fine. This only occurs when I start at
> the
> >> top of the PDF and navigate through the document using the Down Arrow.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Duff Johnson< <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> If the PDF is correctly tagged, you should get each paragraph without
> >>> pauses.
> >>>
> >>> If the PDF hasn't been tagged, or is tagged poorly, then the
> text-stream
> >>> delivered to you as an AT user is a crapshoot in the first instance.
> >>>
> >>> In such cases, if you are lucky enough to ONLY suffer pauses, consider
> >>> yourself fortunate!
> >>>
> >>> Duff Johnson
> >>>
> >>> US Committee for ISO/DIS 14289 (PDF/UA), Chair
> >>>
> >>> p +1 617.283.4226
> >>> e <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >>> t http://www.twitter.com/duffjohnson
> >>> w http://www.duff-johnson.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>