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Re: The a11y bugs project
From: Vlad Alexander (XStandard)
Date: Oct 26, 2011 9:39AM
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> I happily signed this
Thank you!
> and will pass the word on to the European Blind Union
> technology expert mailing list, if that is ok with you
Fantastic. Thanks!
> I suspect fixes will have to be made at all levels, including
> the screen readers, so it would be great to track all of
> these things in one place, and it is definitely one direction
> I could see this project go.
Okay.
> I think expanding it to all bugs in all software will be
> too much, and it might lose focus
That is a valid concern.
Regards,
-Vlad
-------- Original Message --------
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: 10/24/2011 2:23 PM
> Hi
>
> I happily signed this, and will pass the word on to the European Blind
> Union technology expert mailing list, if that is ok with you (getting
> signatures from multiple countries should only encourage fixes).
> Does anyone know of, or is anyone planning, a similar project that
> tracks inconsistencies and bugs in how various screen readers
> implement web technologies (ARIA in particular)?
> This is a complex game, the interaction between user, screen reader,
> browser and content designer (sometimes CMS and the designer). I
> suspect fixes will have to be made at all levels, including the screen
> readers, so it would be great to track all of these things in one
> place, and it is definitely one direction I could see this project go.
> Personally, I think expanding it to all bugs in all software will be
> too much, and it might lose focus, not unless it first successfully
> deals with all web technologies, but with HTML5 on the horizon, I
> doubt the accessibility commmunity will run out of projects any time
> soon.
> Keep up the good work.
> -Birkir
>
> On 10/24/11, Vlad Alexander< <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Thanks for signing the petition Nancy!
>>
>>> This petition seems to focus on browser makers. Am I correct?
>> To focus the project and give it greater impact, the scope was initially set
>> to 3 related bugs. As a result, the petition is just for these 3 bugs.
>>
>>> I hope you take another step and focus on those companies or
>>> organizations that build Content Management Systems or image
>>> uploading systems... make the alt a required field.
>> I think that would be a great direction for the project to take.
>>
>> We are working on software and procedures to let anyone submit bugs and work
>> together with others to get vendors to fix them.
>>
>> Some have proposed that this project should evolve to be a public catalog of
>> all accessibility related bugs in all types of software.
>>
>> Others have suggested that this project should use the bugs submitted to
>> create an accessibility acid test for browsers.
>>
>> Where this project goes is up to the community.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Vlad
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> From: Nancy Johnson
>> Date: 10/24/2011 11:18 AM
>>> Hi Vlad,
>>>
>>> I think the project is great. I've been now to 2 Boston
>>> Un-conferences...
>>>
>>> This petition seems to focus on browser makers. Am I correct?
>>>
>>> I hope you take another step and focus on those companies or
>>> organizations that build Content Management Systems or image uploading
>>> systems... make the alt a required field.
>>>
>>> More images are uploaded through Content Management Systems by
>>> non-websavy individuals who wouldn't have a clue.
>>>
>>> For instance:
>>> Wordpress Admin as so many settings for image upload that non-web savy
>>> content folks will skip anything that's not required. I am training
>>> someone who is struggling to remember all the settings which to use at
>>> which time and have written them down..
>>>
>>> Vignette CMS allows the file name of the image to be dynamically used
>>> as the alt tag... which to me can cause major issues with
>>> usability....
>>>
>>> Anyway
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>> Nancy Johnson
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Vlad Alexander
>>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> I am contributing to "the a11y bugs project" that aims to identify and
>>>> fix browser/tool bugs that undermine accessibility on the web. Fixing
>>>> some of these bugs can have a major impact on web accessibility.
>>>>
>>>> Please check out the project here:
>>>> http://a11ybugs.org
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vlad Alexander
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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