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From: John E Brandt
Date: Dec 9, 2011 7:00PM

I use the Firefox plugin, Firebug for CSS review.

http://getfirebug.com/

~j


John E. Brandt
www.jebswebs.com
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207-622-7937
Augusta, Maine, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
Gunnarsson
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:05 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Off-list help with some CSS/Javascript questions

Thanks John, thanks all.

I'll ask the two questions I had in mind for the general interest then, in
csae someone else may benefit, at least for now.
This one is very basic (and I admit, I should just go Google for it).
When reviewing a web page, I can easily review the html code (in IE by going
to tools -> source).
How about the CSS that a webpage uses, is it easily viewable from within IE
or with some other tool (I know, this is basic, but important to an aspiring
webpage inspector)?
I see no obvious reference to the CSS in Jaws with IE (could well be hidden
in the menus or an icon somewhere).
Do I perhaps need to upgrade to Firebug or some other software to truly
inspect webpages (I tend to do somewhat waterred down webpage inspection, as
I provide free feedback for webpage developers, and do not want to compete
with companies that provide fullfledged accessibility certifications).

The second question is directly related to this.
I am trying to understand how an image carousel at http://www.hljodbok.is
works.
To a screen reader, the page displays 4 links like this
http://www.hljodbok.is/# at the top of the page (below the title and before
the first list of choices, which is basically features products).
This is due to, I believe, CSS creating a carousel with links to product
pictures elsehwere on the page, but it obviously poses accessibility issues,
since the urls just appear by themselves with no useful text at the top.
I need to understand this in order to recommend either hiding these links
somehow, or adding text (I don't know if they are duplicates of item that
appears in the menu below on the page).
Basically I need to adopt better ways of working and better tools so I can
perform more in-depth analysis and not just ask here when I run into issues.
:) After all that would be monopolizing the list.
I'm on my way there now, by systematically studying and testing these
things, and it is a lot of fun. :) Thanks -Birkir


On 12/10/11, John Foliot < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hey Birkir,
>
> Happy to help if I can, although I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss
> your questions as being of 'little interest' to this mailing list, as
> often others have thought the same question and not spoken up, or one
> person raises a question and the answer informs others than the
> original question poser - in other words, no question is too basic or
> of little interest given the complexity and diversity of the members of
this list.
>
> That said you can ping me at <EMAIL REMOVED> or via twitter at
> @johnfoliot
>
> Cheers!
>
> JF
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:webaim-forum-
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:24 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Off-list help with some CSS/Javascript questions
>>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> When I have a general and, in my estimation, informative for all,
>> question about accessibility, I like to post it to the list.
>> This list has been amazing in terms of providing information.
>> I am reading through books on html4/xhtml, css and Javascript to
>> really become a decent web accessibility tester and developer (I
>> started out in a bit of a pretender position because no one else
>> would do it, Ihave solid programming experience and a degree in comp
>> sci, but the web was a new world to me), but there are times I come
>> across something odd on a webpage, especially with regards to use of
>> CSS, I wouldn't mind getting some explanations on from a pro, just
>> while I am learning the ropes.
>> I was wondering if I could bounce a few questions of someone here,
>> who wouldn't mind giving me a few minutes of their time every now and
>> then, questions that would not seem to be of interest to the list as
>> a whole. These would be kept to a minimum.
>>
>> If some of you don't mind, please drop me an email off list.
>> Thanks and have a good weekend everyone.
>> -Birkir
>>