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Re: aria-describedby in JAWS 14

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From: Don Mauck
Date: Oct 26, 2012 3:25PM

Sorry I meant to say JawsKey+alt+r, a typing error on my part.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:47 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedby in JAWS 14

Don,
I have never seen that key combination actually do anything with aria-describedby. JAWS+R only helps to restrict JAWS cursor. The describedby value is exposed without requiring any special keystroke.
Sailesh


On 10/26/12, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Yes, I've seen the "use JawsKey plus R" in the exact scenario. This
> is because the current element has the describe by parameter as you
> note, that keystroke will get related text if it's there, however, I'd
> like the ability to turn that message off in quick settings.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedby in JAWS 14
>
> Not sure why on this test page:
> i. a LABEL element is being used for aria-describedby association.
> Both JAWS and NVDA have been supporting (in IE and FF) multiple
> LABELS that point to same INPUT i.e. both 'for' values points to one 'id' value.
> ii. tabindex="-1" is set on descriptor of user name field.
>
> Another irritation: For over 3 years I have experienced JAWS say "Use
> JAWS key +R to read descriptive text" on any element that uses
> aria-describedby with Firefox browser on XP and Windows 2007.
> Anyone else see this?
> I have reported it more than once to FS.
>
> Using IE9, FF13 and JAWS 12/13:
> aria-describedby value is read once only in (/ out of) forms mode on
> this page or other similar instances.
> Sailesh Panchang
>
>
>
> On 10/26/12, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> I will report this as a bug, if it isn't already reported to the BETA
>> testers bug database.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patterson, David K (ITD) [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-describedby in JAWS 14
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> No, I am using JAWS V14 and when I went to the test page that you
>> mentioned, I got the same problem with JAWSS 14 reading the
>> aria-described lines twice.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> >> David K. Patterson, Ph.D.
>> Manager - Assistive Technology Lab
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of
>> GILLENWATER, ZOE M
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:22 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: [WebAIM] aria-describedby in JAWS 14
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know whether JAWS 14 has fixed the bug of
>> aria-describedby content being read twice? See this page for a demo of this problem:
>> http://wps.pearsoned.com/WAI_ARIA_Testing/221/56717/14519713.cw/index.html.
>> I don't see this as being fixed in Freedom Scientific's list of
>> enhancements, but I don't think their list is comprehensive
>> (http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS14-previous-enhancements.asp).
>> I'm not able to download version 14 right now to test it myself.
>>
>> As a side note, does anyone know of a way to work around or avoid
>> triggering this bug in JAWS 13?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Zoe
>>
>> Zoe Gillenwater
>> Web Accessibility Technical Architect AT&T Consumer Digital
>> Experience
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