WebAIM - Web Accessibility In Mind

E-mail List Archives

Re: Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA

for

From: Susan Grossman
Date: May 16, 2013 12:32PM

Wasn't suggesting JAWS as a permanent testing tool. But if you don't have
it, i do recommend testing with it on a single item or two, and then
considering purchasing it when you see it handles differently than NVDA.

Didn't mention the time limit specifically because I don't advocate it as a
testing tool. Do own my a personal copy, and have gotten many corporations
to purchase it, after showing them how important it is in testing - by
getting them to try testing with the trial.

If companies never try it for testing, and never see how they would benefit
from purchasing it, they won't buy it. That's what a trial is.

If I've misinterpreted what trial means, and what the license for long-term
testing is saying, tell me.





On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Steve Green <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Can I remind everyone that you must not use the JAWS demo version for
> testing - the license terms explicitly prohibit this. You are only allowed
> to use it to determine whether or not to buy the full version. Some of us
> spend a great deal of money ensuring we are correctly licensed - we may not
> like it but it's just one of the costs of being in this business.
>
> Steve Green
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:
> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Susan Grossman
> Sent: 16 May 2013 17:48
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by
> NVDA
>
> You can see if it's an NVD only issue by trying with the JAWS demo. (
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/jaws-product-page.asp)
>
> Also, there is a support chart on at freedom scientific site: (This is
> a Word doc
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/PDF/visionloss/manuals/DevDoc/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc
> )
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Angela French < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > >I would question the use of a role in a span tag.
> > >
> > >Have you tried replacing it with a block element like <p> or <div>
> > >and
> > see if it
> > >works then? We have come across issues when employing the span tag,
> > which is
> > >really more for styling, for purposes other than style.
> > >
> >
> > This is very frustrating to try to figure out what will work in what
> > browsers. Again, using NVDA, Example A on this page (
> > http://www.accessibleculture.org/articles/2011/02/aria-alert/) does
> > NOT read the alert in IE9. It is in a <p> tag.
> > It does get read in Firefox 20.
> >
> > We are under pressure to get this app into production and we cannot
> > seem to get the form validation errors to announce in NVDA (the only
> > screen reader we have)
> >
> > Angela French
> >
> > > > > > list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Susan R. Grossman*
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > >



--
*Susan R. Grossman*
<EMAIL REMOVED>