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From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: May 17, 2013 9:41AM


The Braille that comes with JAWS is actually a Quick Reference Guide, not a full manual. I believe there is also an ink-print quick reference manual -- not a full manual. All the JAWS documentation is available through JAWS Help Insert-h or on-line. There are also audio files MP3's and DAISY books on specific topics.

Dave



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From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:37 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA

Once, where I worked years ago, we had a lab with JAWS in it. I didn't know how to use it and the manual that came with it was in Braille. I am sighted so that did me no good. Do they still ship with just a Braille manual?

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> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Chagnon | PubCom
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:29 PM
>To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by
>NVDA
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>Adobe has a white paper that teaches how to use JAWS and Window-Eyes.
>http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessing-pdf-sr.pdf
>
>Very helpful for developers so that they become familiar with JAWS and
>how it is used.
>But as someone else said, real testing should be done by a JAWS user.
>We developers can only test the "light" stuff.
>
>As a developer/designer, I use JAWS throughout development to test
>reading order, make sure that the document structure is correct, and
>that graphics and their Alt-text read correctly. Especially helpful
>when dealing with very complex designs, such as multiple column layouts
>in Word/InDesign/PDFs, tables, sidebars, etc. I can quickly find errors
>and fix them before the document goes to the reviewer/tester.
>
>Testing navigation issues, headings, etc. is best done by a skilled
>JAWS tester, not me!
>
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>[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Akshi Kakar
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:57 PM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by
>NVDA
>
>Susan,
>I am going to be involved in testing our compatibility with JAWS but
>have never tested with it before. How would you suggest we teach
>ourselves this process of testing? I have used the demo version of JAWS
>to test before but I am guessing the actual testing should be more rigorous.
>
>Thanks,
>Akshi
>
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>From: Susan Grossman [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:32 PM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by
>NVDA
>
>Wasn't suggesting JAWS as a permanent testing tool. But if you don't
>have it, i do recommend testing with it on a single item or two, and
>then considering purchasing it when you see it handles differently than NVDA.
>
>Didn't mention the time limit specifically because I don't advocate it
>as a testing tool. Do own my a personal copy, and have gotten many
>corporations to purchase it, after showing them how important it is in
>testing - by getting them to try testing with the trial.
>
>If companies never try it for testing, and never see how they would
>benefit from purchasing it, they won't buy it. That's what a trial is.
>
>If I've misinterpreted what trial means, and what the license for
>long-term testing is saying, tell me.