E-mail List Archives You are here: Home > Community > E-mail List Archives > View Message Re: Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA Search E-mail List Archives for From: Andrews, David B (DEED)Date: May 17, 2013 9:41AM Next message: Chagnon | PubCom: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message: Greg Gamble: "Re: role="alert" now in div but still not being read by NVDA" Next message in Thread: None Previous message in Thread: Angela French: "Re: role="alert" not being read by NVDA" View all messages in this Thread The Braille that comes with JAWS is actually a Quick Reference Guide, not a full manual. I believe there is also an ink-print quick reference manual -- not a full manual. All the JAWS documentation is available through JAWS Help Insert-h or on-line. There are also audio files MP3's and DAISY books on specific topics. Dave -----Original Message----- From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Angela French Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:37 PM To: WebAIM Discussion List Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA Once, where I worked years ago, we had a lab with JAWS in it. I didn't know how to use it and the manual that came with it was in Braille. I am sighted so that did me no good. Do they still ship with just a Braille manual? >-----Original Message----- >From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:webaim-forum- > <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Chagnon | PubCom >Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:29 PM >To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by >NVDA > >Adobe has a white paper that teaches how to use JAWS and Window-Eyes. >http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessing-pdf-sr.pdf > >Very helpful for developers so that they become familiar with JAWS and >how it is used. >But as someone else said, real testing should be done by a JAWS user. >We developers can only test the "light" stuff. > >As a developer/designer, I use JAWS throughout development to test >reading order, make sure that the document structure is correct, and >that graphics and their Alt-text read correctly. Especially helpful >when dealing with very complex designs, such as multiple column layouts >in Word/InDesign/PDFs, tables, sidebars, etc. I can quickly find errors >and fix them before the document goes to the reviewer/tester. > >Testing navigation issues, headings, etc. is best done by a skilled >JAWS tester, not me! > >-Bevi Chagnon >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >- - >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >www.PubCom.com - Trainers, Consultants, Designers, Developers. >Print, Web, Acrobat, XML, eBooks, and U.S. Federal Section 508 Accessibility. >New schedule for classes and workshops coming in 2013. > >-----Original Message----- >From: <EMAIL REMOVED> >[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Akshi Kakar >Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:57 PM >To: WebAIM Discussion List >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by >NVDA > >Susan, >I am going to be involved in testing our compatibility with JAWS but >have never tested with it before. How would you suggest we teach >ourselves this process of testing? I have used the demo version of JAWS >to test before but I am guessing the actual testing should be more rigorous. > >Thanks, >Akshi > >-----Original Message----- >From: Susan Grossman [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] >Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:32 PM >To: WebAIM Discussion List >Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by >NVDA > >Wasn't suggesting JAWS as a permanent testing tool. But if you don't >have it, i do recommend testing with it on a single item or two, and >then considering purchasing it when you see it handles differently than NVDA. > >Didn't mention the time limit specifically because I don't advocate it >as a testing tool. Do own my a personal copy, and have gotten many >corporations to purchase it, after showing them how important it is in >testing - by getting them to try testing with the trial. > >If companies never try it for testing, and never see how they would >benefit from purchasing it, they won't buy it. That's what a trial is. > >If I've misinterpreted what trial means, and what the license for >long-term testing is saying, tell me. Next message: Chagnon | PubCom: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message: Greg Gamble: "Re: role="alert" now in div but still not being read by NVDA" Next message in Thread: None Previous message in Thread: Angela French: "Re: role="alert" not being read by NVDA" View all messages in this Thread