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Re: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it

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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Jan 8, 2014 4:12PM

Hello:
We want the link to expand and claps as many times as the user clicks it
the problem is that jaws is not telling the user that it is expanding or
collapsing at all after the first time I click the link or even on the
second sample on the page. With nvda I click the link and it says expanded
or collapse to indicate the change.

Lucia Greco
Web Access Analyst
IST-Campus Technology Services
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
Gunnarsson
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:08 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it

Testing this with Jaws 15 and FF24, I observed the following.
Clicking expand/collapse links works consistently every time.
If a section is expanded and I refresh the page, the section collapses.
That is not a Jaws problem, it collapses also visually in the browser.
Is this the root of the problem Lucy?
We can get to the bottom of this.
Thanks
-Birkir
Accessibility SME | Deque Systems


On 1/8/14, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> It works fine for me. I tested it using JAWS15 in IE 8 9 and 10 and
> FF, and it's not having any problems. I also refreshed the page,
> reloaded the url, and again that works too.
>
> Which version of JAWS, browser, and OS are you seeing this on?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cb
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone
> file it
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback. The trigger function now includes
> preventDefault(). Unfortunately it didn't solve Lucy's problem though.
> A new version is attached in case anyone with Jaws wants to try to
> duplicate what she's experiencing.
>
> Caroline
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Bryan Garaventa
> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > The script is missing a preventDefault() which may be contributing
> to the
> > problem. This should be added to prevent page refreshing whenever
> DOM level
> > dynamic content is rendered via a triggering element.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lucy Greco" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone
> file it
> >
> >
> >> Great please do test and remember it works the first time you open
the
> >> expand just not after that
> >>
> >> Lucia Greco
> >> Web Access Analyst
> >> IST-Campus Technology Services
> >> University of California, Berkeley
> >> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir
R.
> >> Gunnarsson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:14 PM
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can
> someone file it
> >>
> >> Lucy
> >>
> >> I am able to use Jaws reliably on this demo page I came up with
with
> >> Detlev Fisher, one that is on his site at:
> >> http://www.3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-expanded.html#
> >>
> >> I can check the demo later on, and if this is a bug I would be
> happy to
> >> help you file it. I am on the Jaws beta team, though I am not
> very active.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/8/14, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >>> Sorry about that here is the demo
> >>>
> >>> Lucia Greco
> >>> Web Access Analyst
> >>> IST-Campus Technology Services
> >>> University of California, Berkeley
> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Lucy Greco [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:56 PM
> >>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> >>> Subject: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it
> >>>
> >>> Hello:
> >>> We would like to give users of our campus accessible templates
the
> >>> ability to use an expandable and collapsible content area.
> Attached is
> >> the
> >>> demo of what we have come up with so far. It works great in NVDA
> and
> >> not
> >>> so good in jaws.
> >>> The problem we have found in jaws is that jaws only indicates the
> >>> expansion happens the first time the expand is clicked. In fact
> if you
> >>> go back to the page a second time it won't say anything ever
again.
> >>> When this first happened I thought I was losing my mind but I
tested
> >>> on another computer and the same thing happened. My instinct is
that
> >>> jaws is the bad player in this game. Can someone else confirm
> this and
> >>> if anyone on this list is on the jaws beta team could you file
> this as
> >>> a bug. I am really getting fed up with AT that does not implement
> >> standards appropriately.
> >>> It's hard enough to get developers to code to standers and then
when
> >>> the AT does not work to the standers it's even harder. My new
year's
> >>> resolution is to shame AT products that don't come up to the
> mark more
> >>> grin Lucy Lucia Greco Web Access Analyst IST-Campus Technology
> >>> Services University of California, Berkeley
> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>>
> >>
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