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Re: One list item in a list

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From: Nancy Johnson
Date: Sep 24, 2014 1:07PM


Many sites are dynamic and the original designers or developers have
no control over whether a list is 0 or more.

A content person, which adds content to the list items, may or may not
know what a list item is or that screen readers exist let alone how it
reads content. They update content via an Admin Control Panel and
depending on the quality of the Rich Text Editor, will depend on the
continued quality of the code. As sites get older, the HTML often
degrades.

Nancy

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:25 AM, John Hicks < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> ... bringing up the rear of the conversation...
>
> One of the things you see a lot on poorly made corporate websites is the
> list made up of one item lists.
>
> This is covered in your blog under the "Do not use HTML list for styles
> such as indenting"
>
>
> In these cases the collection of lists really needs to be a list, but
> screen readers will only see 5 lists (say), each of one element. Crazy
>
>
>
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> 2014-09-23 20:38 GMT+02:00 Rakesh P < <EMAIL REMOVED> >:
>
>> Thanks all for your inputs. I have published the article on my blog at
>> http://www.maxability.co.in/2014/09/html-lists-accessibility/
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> Rakesh
>> On 9/20/14, Hans Hillen < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > A one-item list or even a no-item lists conveys to the user that this is
>> a
>> > structure capable of containing a group of items. It lets the user know
>> > that at any other time there may be more items there and the content is
>> > enumerabe. Like Jared said: if you have a list, say a to-do list, and
>> you
>> > check off items until you get to the last item, that doesn't mean it
>> stops
>> > becoming a list.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Mallory van Achterberg <
>> > <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:20:25PM -0600, Jared Smith wrote:
>> >> > Rakesh wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > I was so far of the thought that a HTML list should contain more
>> than
>> >> > > 2 list items.
>> >> >
>> >> > My wife and I share a shopping list and I pick up the groceries on the
>> >> > way home from work. It currently has one item - lettuce. Yet it's
>> >> > still a shopping list.
>> >> >
>> >> > I admit it is a bit atypical for a list to only have one item - and
>> >> > there is overhead that should be considered for developers, sighted
>> >> > users, and screen reader users when encountering a list with one item
>> >> > (and for me when stopping at the grocer for only lettuce) - but
>> >> > there's nothing that prohibits this.
>> >>
>> >> I have lists on our e-commerce platforms where there may only be one
>> >> item available until a user logs in. Since it's a list of things users
>> >> can do regarding a product, they do belong in the same list, but some
>> >> options only make sense for users who are also logged in.
>> >>
>> >> _mallory
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >>
> > >