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Re: [External]search-submit button -- required or not

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From: KP
Date: Apr 27, 2016 2:18PM


I'll have a proper read later. Always best to ask a busy man

K

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> On 28/04/2016, at 6:00 AM, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> eric its more along the lines of berkers example the icon is th the
> only thing used there is no on screen text and the screen reader speaks
> nothing and at times even skips over the thing. efectivley this becomes a
> surtch feeld with out a submit because the screen reader user does not have
> any way to know its there at all. hitting enter does actavate it half of
> the time but the rest of the time it needs a mouce click i say lable lable
> and lable it but i get all kinds of kickback but but it does not need one
> every one knows what it means. haha
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> If the icon provides better usability for a group of users (maybe
>> people with dyslexia) without harming others, it is a usability
>> improvement, so all good.
>> So I don't mind a properly labeled control that has an additional
>> visual identification.
>> But if the icaon is meant to replace the accessible name or even an
>> easily discoverable textual label, that's where I start getting
>> concerned and push back.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/27/16, Wright, Eric [USA] < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>> Hi Lucy,
>>>
>>> Just my two cents: it depends on what you mean by "no label." If the
>>> magnifying glass has no on-screen label, but has an accessible name and
>> the
>>> correct role, a Dragon user should be able to access it by saying "click
>>> [name]" or "click [role]."
>>>
>>> Just like in the last example, the big issue is discoverability. But
>> that's
>>> why it helps to make your labels intuitive, pronounceable and terse.
>>>
>>> If there's no programmatic label, period, then the Dragon user's best
>> bet is
>>> guessing at the element type (i.e., "click image") or sending keystrokes
>> to
>>> focus on it/activate it.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Eric Wright
>>> Lead Technologist
>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>> Mobile (802) 310-9138
>>> www.boozallen.com
>>>
>>> >>> From: WebAIM-Forum [ <EMAIL REMOVED> ] on behalf of
>> Lucy
>>> Greco [ <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:28 PM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>> Subject: [External] Re: [WebAIM] search-submit button -- required or not
>>>
>>> what is every ones take on the appearing more and more often the icon
>>> font of a magnifying glass with no label i am thinking it is not good
>> for
>>> dragon as well
>>>
>>> Lucia Greco
>>> Web Accessibility Evangelist
>>> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
>>> University of California, Berkeley
>>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>>> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jennifer Sutton < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, all, for this thorough and helpful discussion.
>>>> I appreciate the range of thoughts and experiences everyone has shared.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jennifer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>> >> >> >> > > > >