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Re: [External]search-submit button -- required or not

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From: KP
Date: Apr 27, 2016 4:33PM

Sorry, replied to wrong email :(

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28/04/2016, at 8:18 AM, KP < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> I'll have a proper read later. Always best to ask a busy man
>
> K
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28/04/2016, at 6:00 AM, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>
>> eric its more along the lines of berkers example the icon is th the
>> only thing used there is no on screen text and the screen reader speaks
>> nothing and at times even skips over the thing. efectivley this becomes a
>> surtch feeld with out a submit because the screen reader user does not have
>> any way to know its there at all. hitting enter does actavate it half of
>> the time but the rest of the time it needs a mouce click i say lable lable
>> and lable it but i get all kinds of kickback but but it does not need one
>> every one knows what it means. haha
>>
>> Lucia Greco
>> Web Accessibility Evangelist
>> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
>> University of California, Berkeley
>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>
>>> If the icon provides better usability for a group of users (maybe
>>> people with dyslexia) without harming others, it is a usability
>>> improvement, so all good.
>>> So I don't mind a properly labeled control that has an additional
>>> visual identification.
>>> But if the icaon is meant to replace the accessible name or even an
>>> easily discoverable textual label, that's where I start getting
>>> concerned and push back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/27/16, Wright, Eric [USA] < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> Hi Lucy,
>>>>
>>>> Just my two cents: it depends on what you mean by "no label." If the
>>>> magnifying glass has no on-screen label, but has an accessible name and
>>> the
>>>> correct role, a Dragon user should be able to access it by saying "click
>>>> [name]" or "click [role]."
>>>>
>>>> Just like in the last example, the big issue is discoverability. But
>>> that's
>>>> why it helps to make your labels intuitive, pronounceable and terse.
>>>>
>>>> If there's no programmatic label, period, then the Dragon user's best
>>> bet is
>>>> guessing at the element type (i.e., "click image") or sending keystrokes
>>> to
>>>> focus on it/activate it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Eric Wright
>>>> Lead Technologist
>>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>>> Mobile (802) 310-9138
>>>> www.boozallen.com
>>>>
>>>> >>>> From: WebAIM-Forum [ <EMAIL REMOVED> ] on behalf of
>>> Lucy
>>>> Greco [ <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:28 PM
>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>>> Subject: [External] Re: [WebAIM] search-submit button -- required or not
>>>>
>>>> what is every ones take on the appearing more and more often the icon
>>>> font of a magnifying glass with no label i am thinking it is not good
>>> for
>>>> dragon as well
>>>>
>>>> Lucia Greco
>>>> Web Accessibility Evangelist
>>>> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
>>>> University of California, Berkeley
>>>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
>>>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>>>> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jennifer Sutton < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, all, for this thorough and helpful discussion.
>>>>> I appreciate the range of thoughts and experiences everyone has shared.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jennifer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >