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From: Jim Homme
Date: Aug 14, 2016 8:17AM

Hi Jamous,
No, because when focus lands on the skip link, it appears.

Jim


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Skip Links and ARIA Landmarks for Sighted Users

But aren't we here violating SC 3.2.1?
https://www.wuhcag.com/on-focus/

A keyboard user looks at the page and sees no skip link. He or she gets ticketed off and closes the page or navigates to another one.

Personally, I don't like to hide anything from the user although I know that space is so precious.

I believe this can be debatable, but at least we try to keep it like that on our company site. Don't surprise the user with something that is supposed to be a basic part of the content. On the other hand, SEO can backfire on the ranking if too much off screen stuff is on the site. It can be viewed by search engines as a way to achieve higher ranking through off screen content.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Whitney Quesenbery
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 3:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Skip Links and ARIA Landmarks for Sighted Users

What about skip links that are invisible until reached by tabbing?

I've seen these in a few places and thought they were an elegant compromise between an uncluttered visual interface and good keyboard navigation. In several of the examples, the link appears in a blank spot on the interface, with a strong outline, so it's easy to read.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:54 PM _mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:35:55AM -0600, Jared Smith wrote:
> > I'd love to have this functionality. I know there have been efforts
> > to get browsers to support this functionality, but I don't think
> > it's gotten anywhere. If it ever happened, the ugly, obtrusive hack
> > of "skip" links could finally go away.
>
> I kept using Opera 12 for as long as possible for exactly this reason:
> spatial navigation and heading navigation. Lovely. Gone when Opera
> switched to the Blink engine.
>
> cheers,
> _mallory
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
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