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Re: Accessibility of + and -

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From: Jim Allan
Date: Dec 7, 2016 4:27PM

just tested with word 2016 and Jaws 18 works great
4-digit Unicode code followed by Alt + X
- is read as minus
I is read as "roman Numeral one"
tried 4/5 (unicode 2158) is read as four fifths

NVDA read none of the roman numerals, nor the fraction. , the minus symbol
was read as hyphen.


On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Moore,Michael (Accessibility) (HHSC) <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Does that mean that there is a way in MS Word to cause a screen reader to
> correctly identify chapter headings that include Roman Numerals - eg IX X
> XI? If so please share. We are working on some accessible templates for the
> agency and have been asked to include Roman numerals for the heading
> structure.
>
> Mike Moore
> Accessibility Coordinator
> Texas Health and Human Services Commission
> Civil Rights Office
> (512) 438-3431 (Office)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:56 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of + and -
>
> I believe there are actually different unicode identifiers for minus and
> negate. There are certainly specific UNICODE encodings for roman numerals .
>
> On 7 December 2016 at 03:12, Maxability Accessibility for all <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > While I second to set SR punctuation to all, I used to recommend using
> > ascii values instead of symbols themselves. I had a problem with
> > negative value read as hyphen and I have made a simple POC to see
> > different options, you can have a look at it.
> > http://www.maxability.co.in/demos/Negetive-value.html
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> > <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > > You could insert an off-screen sentence at the top of an article
> > > saying (this text uses symols, adjust your screen reader punctuation
> > > settings).
> > > I am not a fan of content authors going overboard to address screen
> > > reader options.
> > > That is something the screen reader vendors and the users should
> > > work out for themselves.
> > > It is possible to propose an ARIA attribute that specifies
> > > punctuation levels. If author uses that, the screen readers could
> > > pick it up and adjust their punctuation setting accordingly for that
> page.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/6/16, Joshua Hori < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > Code wise, couldn't you use MathJax to ensure the symbols are read
> > aloud?
> > > >
> > > > Joshua
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> > > > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of JP Jamous
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:47 AM
> > > > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessibility of + and -
> > > >
> > > > If they turn punctuation off, then there is nothing you can do
> > > > code
> > > wise. I
> > > > like to keep it at Some punctuation for my PC and JAWS cursors.
> > > > The
> > > default
> > > > is Most punctuations, but that can be too annoying.
> > > >
> > > > If I am reading something where I know that punctuations are
> > > > necessary
> > to
> > > > have read, I either change the setting or read by char.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> > > > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of McGarvey, Paul
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:01 AM
> > > > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > > > Subject: [WebAIM] Accessibility of + and -
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone able to offer any thoughts on the accessibility of
> > > > symbols/characters such as &, *, +, - and so on? I know from
> > > > visiting
> > the
> > > > Digital Accessibility Centre in Neath and speaking to testers
> > > > there
> > that
> > > a
> > > > lot of people who use screenreaders "turn the punctuation off" and
> > > > thus would miss a crucial character in a sentence like "exports
> > > > for this
> > > quarter
> > > > were -0.2". However, want to know more about this for looking for
> > > > any blogs/articles/guidance anyone could provide to build on this
> > > > anecdotal evidence.
> > > >
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