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From: L Snider
Date: Feb 13, 2017 7:50AM

Ok so technically there is a link there even with an image logo. For
usability I always recommend a text link, but I was being too picky on that
one!

Thanks again!

Lisa

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Detlev Fischer < <EMAIL REMOVED>
> wrote:

> L Snider schrieb am 13.02.2017 15:11:
>
> > Hi Detlev,
> >
> > Thanks, so it looks like I was on the right track. I have seen sites that
> > only use the logo as the home page link, so there isn't a text link. From
> > the way I read G85 that would fail?
>
> If the logo has a meaningful alt attriute (or another way of providing an
> accessible name to non-visual users) I would assume that the test in G185
> would pass and the page (when it belongs to a small site) would thus pass
> SC 2.4.5. Using the logo as home page link is so common that no visible
> text link would be required in this case.
>
>
> I advise people to do both, but I see
> > more sites with just logos these days.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Detlev Fischer <
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lisa,
> >> Admittedly, the difference is slight.
> >> * G126 requires that each page has links to all other pages of a small
> >> site.
> >> * G85 requires that all pages are linked directly from the home page and
> >> that each page has a link back to the home page. So G185 does not
> require
> >> each page to have links to all other pages, just a link to the home
> page.
> >> Interestingly there is no upper limit given for what counts as small
> site.
> >> * G125 seems fairly general and just checks that links to other pages
> work
> >> without saying anything about the hierarchy or requiring a comprehensive
> >> listing. So this technique would presumably work in tandem with another
> >> technique such as search. if you had a sub page linking back to the
> section
> >> page above (but not to the home page) AND a second option, say, a
> general
> >> search function, SC 2.4.5 would be met.
> >>
> >> I admit there is overlap between G126 and G185 but as techniques are
> >> informative only anyway and the small-site techniques are rarely used on
> >> the kind of sites that are audited for WCAG compliance (at least in my
> >> experience), there is probably little harm in not touching these
> techniques
> >> and focusing on the workload related to WCAG 2.1.
> >>
> >> Detlev
> >> --
> >> Detlev Fischer
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> >>
> >> L Snider schrieb am 12.02.2017 05:35:
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > This has bugged me for a while. Under the techniques for wcag 2.4.5,
> they
> >> > note G125, G126 and G185. When I look at all of them, they all seem
> to be
> >> > saying the same thing.
> >> >
> >> > https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/
> navigation-mechanisms-mult-
> >> loc.html
> >> >
> >> > The only slight difference I can see is that G185 seems to be saying
> that
> >> > you need to have links on the home page, G126 sounds like it is for
> small
> >> > sites and G125 just talks about links going to where they say.
> >> >
> >> > I have searched everywhere and can't find rationale for these three,
> can
> >> > anyone fill me in?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Lisa
> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
>
> > > > >