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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: May 11, 2017 8:41AM

Thanks John and Jon for the updates and corrections.
Since I moved over from consulting to running a corporate program I
don´t always follow all the latest developments as much as I should.
I have carefully studied all the WCAG 2.1 success criteria. I am
excited by some, baffled by others, but I was not sure what the
compliance requirements were, I hadn't gotten there yet.

I love having acces to guys like Jon and John, and to this list, for
keeping me up-to-date.



On 5/11/17, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> My understanding of WCAG 2.1 is that the new requirements )low vision,
>> cognitive, mobile) success criteria will be optional (I think you can
>> choose to comply with 1 or more of those), though I am not overly clear on
>> the details.
>
> That is not correct. Originally mobile, cognitive, low vision were seen as
> extensions. However, that approach did not seem to be equitable with the
> community. Now the work from the task forces is going to be rolled in a
> WCAG 2.1 without extensions. In order to meet 2.1 at a particular level you
> will need to conform to all of the criteria at that level. What criteria
> are in or out is still fluid. Mobile technology is not really a specific
> area anymore as the reality is really that some people have smaller screens
> or touch devices but others have touch screens on larger devices. Thus
> criteria will focus on the capabilities of the content.
>
> Jonathan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf
> Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Wcag 2.1
>
> My understanding of WCAG 2.1 is that the new requirements )low vision,
> cognitive, mobile) success criteria will be optional (I think you can choose
> to comply with 1 or more of those), though I am not overly clear on the
> details.
>
> What I do know is that Section 508 was updated to references WCAG 2.0 on
> January 18, 2017 (9 years after the WCAG 2.0 release, back then we did not
> even have an accessible touch screen device), and that the ADA does not
> reference WCAG 2.0 specifically, which has caused headaches, chaos and
> endless amount of corporate accessibility policy debate all over the nation.
> In Europe we started campaigning for the EU Accessibility Directive in 2011
> and it came through in late 2016 referncing WCAG 2.0 with compliance coming
> into effective starting 2018.
> So, seriously, even if 2.1 becomes an official standard in 2018 or 2019,
> there will be another 3 to 5 years (spoken as an unrealistic
> optimist) before that standard is likely to be referenced by an official
> legislation, more likely 6 to 8 years.
> WE are all aware that we need more agile standards and legislation to
> address technological progress, and it is one of the big talking points of
> WCAG 3.0 (or WCAG AG, nicknamed silver).
> Making corporate accessibility policies reference WCAG 2.0 is huge, and the
> priority for now, I would say. Asking them to do more and prefer for a new
> standard may be too much for the legal team.
> You can review the 2.1 success cirteria with the designers, developers and
> content folks and dress them up as usability improvements and possible
> extras.
>
>
>
> On 5/11/17, Tim Harshbarger < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> My understanding is that when WCAG 2.1 becomes a technical
>> recommendation, there isn't any requirement for laws to update to that
>> version. That will be up to whatever political entities have the
>> legislative power to change the laws.
>>
>> Also, by the time WCAG 2.1 is close to becoming an official
>> recommendation, it will not be undergoing any more changes. However, I
>> expect for most political entities, they will want to wait until the
>> specification is completed before they look into altering their laws
>> to incorporate it. While WCAG 2.1 has a timeline, that is just the
>> plan--and few plans survive contact with reality.
>>
>> I am sure we have people on this list more fully involved with W3C and
>> the process of creating WCAG 2.1 that can give better and more
>> accurate information--but that is my understanding of things--well, my
>> last comment about when laws might be updated is more an opinion about
>> how legislative bodies are likely to react.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf Of JP Jamous
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:55 AM
>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Wcag 2.1
>>
>> I don't know of any company or organization that is pushing for 2.1
>> since it is not official yet. It would be nice to get a head start on
>> it, but what if they continue to refine it to the last set of weeks
>> before the official release. That would only backfire on the
>> organization's SDLC.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf Of Lisa Snider
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:47 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Wcag 2.1
>>
>> I hear ya! I was also wondering if there is new legislation being
>> written, whether we should push for 2.1 now so by the time it is
>> written it will include it?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 11, 2017, at 8:42 AM, JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>
>>> That will probably take another 10 years. *Smiles*
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>>> Behalf Of Lisa Snider
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:39 AM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Wcag 2.1
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> With wcag 2.1 going to happen in a year or so, will governments have
>>> to change legislation that relies on wcag to update from wcag 2.0?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lisa
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