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Re: Remediation Cost Versus Inclusive Design Cost

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From: JP Jamous
Date: Sep 8, 2017 1:22PM

Thank you all for the references. I know we all have been in the same boat. I am just trying to ensure my audience hit the recognition spot. I will try to persuade them in all types of ways.


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Ha ha! I just noticed Tim is one of the presenters for one of these.
Small world.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Robert Fentress < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> These resources might provide some useful info, though I can't vouch
> for how accessible they are themselves.
>
> - IBM's WCAG 2.0 Compliance Costing Model
> <https://www-03.ibm.com/able/education/downloads/IBM_WCAG_2.0_Compliance_Costing_Model_CSUN13.pdf>
> - Cost Savings of Early Accessibility
> <https://www-03.ibm.com/able/education/downloads/CostSavingsofEarlyAccessibility-CSUN-2012_accessible_IBM.pdf>
> - Cost Case Studies of CampusWeb Accessibility
> <http://ncdae.org/presentations/2013/CSUN/cost.pdf>;
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@
> statefarm.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it is extremely tough to find stats specifically for
>> accessibility or inclusive design.
>>
>> You should be able to find stats on how much it costs to fix defects
>> at various stages of a project (including post-implementation). I
>> can't imagine there is a reason why addressing accessibility defects
>> would have a significantly different cost than other defects like
>> usability, functionality, or security. However, you might need to
>> persuade your audience that accessibility defects aren't really any
>> different than any other defect when it comes to repairing them. They
>> all require that people have some level of knowledge about that type
>> of defect in order to be able to identify and fix them. The more
>> competent their knowledge level, the easier it will be to identify and fix the defect.
>>
>> I think you should be able to prove that the cost of addressing
>> defects in design and development are so much less than fixing them
>> as part of remediation that there is no way you could ever run a
>> remediation project for less than what it would have cost you to have
>> addressed the defects during design and development.
>>
>> Also, you might want to find examples where "remediation" can't fix
>> the problem. That is the remediation needed to fix some problems can
>> involve completely redesigning something from scratch.
>>
>> Hopefully that helps somewhat.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
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>> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf Of Judith Blankman via WebAIM-Forum
>> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 10:54 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Remediation Cost Versus Inclusive Design Cost
>>
>> Additionally, the argument might not be specific to inclusive design.
>>
>> I think the point of persuasion is to do things right the first time,
>> which is what inclusive design leads to.
>>
>> From: "Blankman, Judith A." < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 at 8:52 AM
>> To: " <EMAIL REMOVED> " < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Remediation Cost Versus Inclusive Design Cost
>>
>> I would be very interested in what you find, JP. We all know the
>> pain, just need evidence to persuade others.
>>
>> I have seen a graphic that illustrates the cost of defect fixing by
>> stage that shows an increase 10 times exponentially.
>>
>> I reached out to my colleague about where he found it and others like it.
>> The graphic he sent to me is from a book 'Software Engineering- by
>> Barry Boehm.
>>
>> He suggests looking at the Software Engineering Institute. He also
>> sent me this link: http://www.ieee.org/index.html and says that the
>> IEEE standards drives the electronic/digital world.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith Blankman
>>
>>
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>> of JP Jamous < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
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>> Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 at 8:07 AM
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>> Subject: [WebAIM] Remediation Cost Versus Inclusive Design Cost
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have been researching this topic, but couldn't find anything
>> useful. I'd like some information on how much it would cost to
>> perform assessment and remediation on a project versus using inclusive design at the wireframe.
>> My
>> goal is to find evidence that implementing accessibility at the start
>> of a project is cheaper than going through evaluation and remediation.
>>
>>
>> Any help or references will be highly appreciated.
>>
>>
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