WebAIM - Web Accessibility In Mind

E-mail List Archives

Re: Title Attribute speaking Right Language in Wrong accent, but the rest of the page is fine

for

From: David Farough
Date: Oct 27, 2017 9:54AM


Hi Sarah:

I tried your code using Jaws 18 and NVDA and in both cases the title
was spoken using the English settings.

I agree that expecting a user to use the speech and sounds manager to
handle this situation would be excessive.
There is a setting to change language when speaking link attributes,
but that would assume that you knew what language to use for all the
links you encounter.
I tried specifying the normal voice rather than the Jaws message voice,
hoping that I would hear the title text in French but no luck there
either.

It seems reasonable to me that the title for the link should be spoken
using the language of the element.

this would be a good thing to report on the jaws open repository.
https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues

David Farough

Coordonnateur de l'accessibilité des applications, Services intégrés de
gestion des TI
Commission de la fonction publique du Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
<EMAIL REMOVED> Tél: 819-420-8418 Télécopieur :
819-420-8408

Application Accessibility Co-ordinator, Corporate IT Management
Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
<EMAIL REMOVED> Tel: 819-420-8418 / Fax: 819-420-8408


>>> Sarah Jevnikar < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 05:19 PM Thursday, October
26, 2017 >>>
Thanks David and JP,
The sound schemes is a good idea, but I'm not sure it's fair to expect
everyone who wants to use this site to have made those changes.

I tried adding the language attribute (below), which didn't work, but
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Maybe it's in the wrong place?

<a lang="fr-fr" title="Aller à la page 2"
href="http://google.ca/">2</a>

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
Behalf Of David Farough
Sent: October 26, 2017 12:34 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Title Attribute speaking Right Language in Wrong
accent, but the rest of the page is fine

You might want to take a look at the speech and sound schemes settings
in Jaws.

To access these:
.Open the settings centre (jaws key plus 6 on the number row), . type
sch in the search edit field, . press f6 to move focus to the right
panel on the screen and activate the modify scheme button.
.activate the edit scheme button,

This is a multi-page dialogue which allows you to control the way that
Jaws handles various controls, attributes and many other features.

in the attributes page of this dialogue there is a setting that governs
how link attributes are spoken.


You can make Jaws use different voice aliases or play various sounds
etc.

The other area you might want to explore is the speech profiles.

Here you can specify settings for the various speech or voice aliases.


I suspect that your scheme settings may be switching voices and using a
voice that is set to speak English text.

You will probably have to do some experimentation with these settings.

I do not know what you would need to do for NVDA.

HTH


David Farough

Coordonnateur de l'accessibilité des applications, Services intégrés de
gestion des TI Commission de la fonction publique du Canada /
Gouvernement du Canada <EMAIL REMOVED> Tél: 819-420-8418
Télécopieur :
819-420-8408

Application Accessibility Co-ordinator, Corporate IT Management Public
Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
<EMAIL REMOVED> Tel: 819-420-8418 / Fax: 819-420-8408
>>> Sarah Jevnikar < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 10:00 AM Thursday, October
26, 2017 >>>
Hi all,
I'm testing a page with English and French versions with a screen
reader. JAWS with NVDA, IE, Firefox and Chrome. Some of the links have
title attributes for additional information. Though these are written in
French, and the page itself has a French language attribute so is read
in French properly, the title attributes are read with an English
accent. Do title attributes require their own language attributes too,
even if the page as a whole has the correct one?

Any help you can provide is much appreciated.

Merci!
Sarah
archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
Ce courriel est destiné exclusivement au destinataire mentionné en
titre et peut contenir de l'information privilégiée, confidentielle ou
soustraite à la communication aux termes des lois applicables. Toute
divulgation non autorisée, toute reproduction ou réacheminement est
interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce courriel, ou n'êtes
pas autorisé par le destinataire visé, ou encore, si vous l'avez reçu
par erreur, veuillez le mentionner immédiatement à l'expéditeur et
supprimer le courriel et les copies.

This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) and may
contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from
disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized disclosure, copying or
re-transmission is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or not
authorized by the named recipient(s), or if you have received this
e-mail in error, then please notify the sender immediately and delete
the message and any copies.

archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
Ce courriel est destiné exclusivement au destinataire mentionné en titre
et peut contenir de l'information privilégiée, confidentielle ou
soustraite à la communication aux termes des lois applicables. Toute
divulgation non autorisée, toute reproduction ou réacheminement est
interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce courriel, ou n'êtes
pas autorisé par le destinataire visé, ou encore, si vous l'avez reçu
par erreur, veuillez le mentionner immédiatement à l'expéditeur et
supprimer le courriel et les copies.

This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) and may
contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from
disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized disclosure, copying or
re-transmission is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or not
authorized by the named recipient(s), or if you have received this
e-mail in error, then please notify the sender immediately and delete
the message and any copies.