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From: chagnon@pubcom.com
Date: Jun 18, 2018 2:20PM

Lisa wrote: " especially now that I can't use the TURO/Reading Order tool anymore to see what the tags are "

If the PDF was exported from InDesign, then yes, we're still stuck with seeing <span> <span> <span> around every line of text when viewed in the Order panel.

But this doesn't happen if the PDF was exported from Word.

Lisa, are there other times when you can't see the tags in the Order panel?

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of L Snider
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:43 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] PDF reflow problem after conversion from Word

I wondered if the 2.0 was the issue, but wasn't sure (Adobe didn't mention it when I reported the PDF/InDesign bug). I am on Fast Insider Office so I never know if they are changing things around, so I wait a bit and then use the forums. I am hoping these issues are temporary! They are a real pain, especially now that I can't use the TURO/Reading Order tool anymore to see what the tags are, that is really not fun at all.

I hope everyone submits issues, because then they will fix them!

Cheers

Lisa



On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> We're starting to see the effects of PDF 2.0 being adopted by our
> software companies.
>
> (The PDF 2.0 standard was released last year, https://www.pdfa.org/
> publication/iso-32000-2-pdf-2-0/. The PDF/UA 2 standard is still in
> development.)
>
> So expect some changes to what Microsoft and Adobe's products produce.
> No transition is without its bumps and glitches.
>
> But if there are errors, then log them to the appropriate User Voice
> forum. If you're doing an MS Office-to-PDF workflow, then log the
> error at both companies.
>
> The User Voice forums are at:
> —Acrobat https://acrobat.uservoice.com/ —Word
> https://word.uservoice.com/ —PowerPoint
> https://powerpoint.uservoice.com/ —Adobe InDesign
> https://indesign.uservoice.com/
>
> —Bevi
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of L
> Snider
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 9:42 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] PDF reflow problem after conversion from Word
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Is this Mac Word? I have had some weird issues recently, including tags
> problems that I only had with InDesign to Acrobat DC 2018 (since November)
> but they now seem to be happening in 2016 Word Mac (I am on Fast Insider
> thought so I might be getting these when most people aren't yet seeing
> them). I am also now having weird font issues with PowerPoint going to PDF
> after their last fast insider update.
>
> Are you on a desktop or device?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 9:42 PM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > Not experiencing this on my Acrobat Pro DC:2018 version with PDFs made
> > from Word 2016, Windows 10 operating system.
> >
> > No problem with Reflow. Graphics are there.
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> > Steve Green
> > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:55 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] PDF reflow problem after conversion from Word
> >
> > I don't know if this is a new problem, but if a Word document contains
> any
> > images, it cannot be viewed in Reflow view after conversion to PDF. After
> > selecting the Reflow menu option, the PDF remains in "normal" view and
> the
> > Reflow menu option is now greyed out. This occurs both with Adobe Reader
> > and Adobe Acrobat. I am using Word in Office 365.
> >
> > As a workaround, I tried converting the Word document using Adobe Acrobat
> > v9 (yes, I know it's old but it meets our needs). Reflow now works ok but
> > Acrobat creates untagged PDFs. I have been through all the settings and I
> > can't see anything that would account for this.
> >
> > Can anyone shed any light on this? I am keen to avoid making any changes
> > to the document in Acrobat because the client who will be creating the
> > documents is not tech savvy and I am trying to write the simplest
> possible
> > procedures for them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve Green
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