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From: Mohith BP
Date: Jun 19, 2018 10:43PM

Hi,

Usually I keep it manual. however I suggest it is okay for you to
perform test with the default settings which is auto forms mode.
Few ARIA Roles such as role application anyhow forces the forms mode
regardless of the users settings.

Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.


On 6/20/18, Robert Fentress < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> I guess as a sighted person who uses JAWS for testing of web pages, I want
> to get as much of a feel for what the user experience is like for the
> "average" person who actually needs to use the software. I'd hoped there
> would be more consensus, in which case I could feel like I wouldn't have to
> worry as much about testing with the less common configurations. I know
> it, technically, shouldn't matter, but for custom widgets, sometimes things
> seem to behave strangely (especially with IE) and, I suspect, differently
> depending on the mode (could be wrong there).
>
> I recognize the danger of naive sighted users testing with screen readers,
> but I feel like I should push myself, as much as I can, to get familiar
> with the software, so that I can develop appropriate intuitions about how
> things "should" behave. Coding to standards is good, but actually trying
> to develop widgets that are functional and usable for the broadest range of
> users is better. I think that requires actual testing with AT, and we
> can't afford to hire people who actually *need* to use the software on a
> regular basis to do our testing, so that leaves me.
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 9:45 PM Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> I think the more advanced the user, the more likely they are to use
>> manual mode. I"m pretty sure that goes for software in general.
>> Advanced users bother to change the defaults.
>> I want control over when Jaws sends a click event vs. when it passes
>> the keyboard events through to the browser so I go full manual.
>> Don't expect your typical user to prefer that though.
>> In terms of web design, you shouldn't even think about this, just
>> focus on coding things correctly and let the screen reader take care
>> of when to enter interactive mode vs. browse mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/18, Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> >> Although Semi-Auto and Manual are still available, I'm not sure why
>> anyone
>> >> would prefer them.
>> >
>> > If you have improperly coded pages you may need to use manual or semi.
>> For
>> > example, an improperly coded ARIA based drop down where you want to use
>> > arrow keys to move up and down in a custom list but JAWS kicks you out
>> > of
>> > forms mode when down arrow is pressed. I've also run into issues with
>> > getting stuck in edit fields in the past but that seems to be much
>> > improved.
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
>> Behalf
>> > Of Steve Green
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:22 AM
>> > To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Preferred mode for JAWS users?
>> >
>> > In all our user testing I have never seen anyone use anything other than
>> > Auto Forms Mode since it was introduced in JAWS 10. Some people who used
>> > JAWS prior to that might prefer Manual Forms Mode but Auto Forms Mode
>> > was
>> > well received in my experience.
>> >
>> > Although Semi-Auto and Manual are still available, I'm not sure why
>> anyone
>> > would prefer them.
>> >
>> > Steve Green
>> > Managing Director
>> > Test Partners Ltd
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>> > Robert Fentress
>> > Sent: 19 June 2018 14:38
>> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> > Subject: [WebAIM] Preferred mode for JAWS users?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a sense of what mode most JAWS users prefer: Manual
>> Forms
>> > Mode, Auto Forms Mode, or Semi-Auto Forms mode? I had heard a while
>> > back
>> > from one JAWS user that experienced users of the software preferred
>> Manual,
>> > but that was just one person and was quite a while ago, so I wonder if
>> that
>> > is really true, and if it may have changed as sites increasingly use
>> > ARIA
>> > composite widgets. Any data on this anywhere?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Rob
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