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Re: Tagging issues with Acrobat Pro DC

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From: Philip Kiff
Date: Apr 11, 2019 9:26AM

I have also heard that there are some assistive technologies that
continue to use an order that matches what is shown in the Order panel,
so if you are targetting those devices then you can continue to use the
Order panel to verify that order.

However, I believe you will find that there is actually no difference
between the order in the Order panel and the order in the Content panel.
It is just that the Order panel only shows items that have tags applied,
whereas the Content panel shows all the objects in the file regardless
of whether they are tagged or not.

Over the years, many people have found that if they follow Adobe's
instructions on how to order content using primarily the Order panel,
then they will sometimes end up with a file where text or graphics have
disappeared from view or a file that seems otherwise corrupted.

So some people who do advanced remediation of PDFs have therefore
decided that they can achieve the exact same desired ordering shown in
the Order panel without actually using the Order panel to re-order the
containers in the Content tree. If you re-order the content directly in
the Content tree, then I think it will also be re-ordered in the Order
panel.

Phil.

Philip Kiff
D4K Communications

On 2019-04-11 11:16, Larry Jones wrote:
> I am new to the list. I was told the acrobat order panel was connected to
> Braille output. Is this so?
>
> We have found changes needed to this order with images. Did we do the wrong
> thing and should change in the content panel?
>
> Larry
>
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> From: Karlen Communications < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Date: Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Tagging issues with Acrobat Pro DC
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>
>
> It wasn't a matter of the text being mixed up in the PathPath's but that the
> auto tagging tool in Acrobat seemed to reverse itself and consider the
> Artifacts as needing Tags and the text as Artifacts. I started going through
> the Content Panel but found that I was making everything an Artifact and had
> no text at the end of the task...I would have had to manually tag all of the
> text.
>
> I never use the Order Panel unless I think that content/text has not been
> tagged. I use it as sort of a satellite view of the document but focus on
> the Tags Tree and the Content Panel if necessary.
>
> I agree about teaching the Content Panel, but in working through an exercise
> with my class in accessible media design, we all had the same document, the
> same version of Acrobat Pro DC and some students got table gridlines tagged
> as <Span>, <Figure> or just floating in the tags Tree with no apparent
> Tag...sometimes the opportunity for learning lands in front of you,
> especially when working on assignments for marks!
>
> Cheers, Karen
> > > >