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Re: Microsoft Word: Decorative Image Accessibility

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From: L Snider
Date: Jun 26, 2019 5:01PM

Also in my testing three months back, the decorative still didn't transfer
to PDF, on Mac or PC. I don't use it at this time, until they fix this
feature (or if the document is Word only).

Cheers

Lisa

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:10 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> I think there's something wacky with the new Alt-text utility.
> Sometimes the Decorative checkbox is there, sometimes not.
>
> If I click and use the Alt-Text utility on Format Picture, it has the Title
> and Description fields, but no decorative option.
>
> If instead I right-click and use the new-ish Edit Alt Text that's in the
> context-sensitive menu, that version just has the Alt-text field. And still
> no decorative option.
>
> We had the decorative checkbox earlier in the year, and then it went away,
> came back, and went away again with each update to Word. This has happened
> with both our 365 subscriptions and traditional installations.
>
> And yes, we're up to date on all of them.
>
> It's just plain weird!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Karlen Communications
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> Yes, the Title field is gone. There is just the Description field, a button
> to automatically generate Alt Text if you have that turned on (Intelligent
> Services) and the Mark as Decorative check box.
>
> None of these will be available in earlier versions of Office as far as I
> know. They are only available in an Office 365 subscription version.
>
> Cheers, Karen
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> Jonathan Avila
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> I've had the decorative checkbox in Word 365 on Windows for months. I no
> longer have a title and description field -- just an alt text field.
>
> Jonathan
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> In my version of Word 2016 (on a PC), there is not a "decorative" option
> for
> images. I know *Powerpoint* 2019 added a "decorative" checkbox. Not sure
> about Word 2019. I'm just double checking what version of Word you're
> using
> and where you're seeing the decorative checkbox. When I run the a11y
> checking in Word 2016, there's no mention of making decorative images.
>
> And just one clarification, and it's kind of a nit-pick, but you said a
> blank alt text makes an image decorative for the web. I wanted to make
> sure
> you meant an empty alt text (quote-quote) and not a single blank character
> as the alt text. The latter is seen as a valid alt text and will read the
> blank. An empty alt text will essentially hide the image.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Jim Homme < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > This is with Word 2016.
> >
> >
> > * The accessibility checker wants me to mark decorative images with a
> > check box.
> > * When I do that, JAWS says the word "Decorative" for these images.
> > * NVDA does not say anything for these same images, unless I use the
> > Advanced settings and use the experimental UIA settings.
> > * On the web, blank alt text makes decorative images disappear for
> > both screen readers.
> > * I was lead to believe that if I put a single space as the alt text
> > in Word, that a screen reader would ignore any image with a single
> > space as alt text.
> > * As a screen reader user, I am used to not hearing anything for
> > decorative images, because this is how I was trained it should work.
> >
> > My question is: How should this work, since I do not necessarily know
> > which screen reader a person might have when they read my Word document?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
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