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From: Marinette Fargo
Date: Jun 27, 2019 8:03AM

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I am using the most current version in 0365 and it has the decorative image=
box. If you select this in WORD, be aware that you will still get an acces=
sibility flag if it's carried into PDF because it doesn't properly mark the=
image as decorative/artifact. You will have to do this separately in Acrob=
at.

Take care,

Marinette

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From: Jonathan Avila < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:56 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Microsoft Word: Decorative Image Accessibility

Bevi, I agree that something odd has happened in Word. I'm no longer able=
to add alt text to images in .doc format -- only .docx. The accessibility=
checker also does not work in .doc format -- I thought it used to.

Jonathan

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Microsoft Word: Decorative Image Accessibility

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I think there's something wacky with the new Alt-text utility.
Sometimes the Decorative checkbox is there, sometimes not.

If I click and use the Alt-Text utility on Format Picture, it has the Title=
and Description fields, but no decorative option.

If instead I right-click and use the new-ish Edit Alt Text that's in the co=
ntext-sensitive menu, that version just has the Alt-text field. And still n=
o decorative option.

We had the decorative checkbox earlier in the year, and then it went away, =
came back, and went away again with each update to Word. This has happened =
with both our 365 subscriptions and traditional installations.

And yes, we're up to date on all of them.

It's just plain weird!

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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Microsoft Word: Decorative Image Accessibility

Yes, the Title field is gone. There is just the Description field, a button=
to automatically generate Alt Text if you have that turned on (Intelligent
Services) and the Mark as Decorative check box.

None of these will be available in earlier versions of Office as far as I k=
now. They are only available in an Office 365 subscription version.

Cheers, Karen

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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Microsoft Word: Decorative Image Accessibility

I've had the decorative checkbox in Word 365 on Windows for months. I no l=
onger have a title and description field -- just an alt text field.

Jonathan

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In my version of Word 2016 (on a PC), there is not a "decorative" option fo=
r images. I know *Powerpoint* 2019 added a "decorative" checkbox. Not sur=
e about Word 2019. I'm just double checking what version of Word you're us=
ing and where you're seeing the decorative checkbox. When I run the a11y c=
hecking in Word 2016, there's no mention of making decorative images.

And just one clarification, and it's kind of a nit-pick, but you said a bla=
nk alt text makes an image decorative for the web. I wanted to make sure y=
ou meant an empty alt text (quote-quote) and not a single blank character a=
s the alt text. The latter is seen as a valid alt text and will read the b=
lank. An empty alt text will essentially hide the image.


On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Jim Homme < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote=
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> Hi,
> This is with Word 2016.
>
>
> * The accessibility checker wants me to mark decorative images with a
> check box.
> * When I do that, JAWS says the word "Decorative" for these images.
> * NVDA does not say anything for these same images, unless I use the
> Advanced settings and use the experimental UIA settings.
> * On the web, blank alt text makes decorative images disappear for
> both screen readers.
> * I was lead to believe that if I put a single space as the alt text
> in Word, that a screen reader would ignore any image with a single
> space as alt text.
> * As a screen reader user, I am used to not hearing anything for
> decorative images, because this is how I was trained it should work.
>
> My question is: How should this work, since I do not necessarily know
> which screen reader a person might have when they read my Word document?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
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