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From: Web Axe
Date: May 26, 2020 8:38AM

Sumit,

I asked the Deque Univ. product owner about the shortcut issue. He replied
that the shortcut was removed some time ago. You're probably using on a
SCORM export of the courses that hasn't been updated in a while; please ask
the accessibility coordinator to get the latest version of the courses.

Dennis


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> 1. 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Sumit Patel)
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> 3. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Sumit Patel)
> 4. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (Murphy, Sean)
> 5. Re: 2.1.4 Character key short cuts (glen walker)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Cc:
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:41:58 +0530
> Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> Hi all,
>
>
> I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
> Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>
> In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
> "K" will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube ,
> it will take you to the next link rather than activating the Play /
> Pause button. Is it a violation?
>
> In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is
> the command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with
> the provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to
> the next page.
> What about it?
>
> Please help me.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Murphy, Sean" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 04:18:13 +0000
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
> by-passing the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers as
> well.
>
>
>
>
> Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
> Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
> Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
> Digital Systems Launch Page
> Accessibility Single source of Truth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Sumit Patel
> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>
> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
> cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
> Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
>
> In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA , "K"
> will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it will
> take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause button.
> Is it a violation?
>
> In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is the
> command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with the
> provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to the next
> page.
> What about it?
>
> Please help me.
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sumit Patel < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:59:29 +0530
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> Could you please give me an example of this SC for better
> understanding with URL
>
> On 25/05/2020, Murphy, Sean < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
> by-passing
> > the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
> > Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
> > Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
> > Digital Systems Launch Page
> > Accessibility Single source of Truth
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Sumit
> > Patel
> > Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
> > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> >
> > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
> > cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
> > Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
> >
> > In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
> "K"
> > will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it will
> > take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause
> button. Is
> > it a violation?
> >
> > In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is the
> > command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with the
> > provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to the next
> > page.
> > What about it?
> >
> > Please help me.
> > > > > archives at
> > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > > > > >
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Murphy, Sean" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 04:45:14 +0000
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> The failure is related to the use of the letter 'k' based upon the SC. Not
> related to the screen reader. The SC references, not to use single letter
> shortcut keys as it impacts speech (voice recognition) users. The SC
> references:
>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/character-key-shortcuts.html
>
> Turn off
> A mechanism is available to turn the shortcut off;
> Remap
> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to include one or more
> non-printable keyboard keys (e.g., Ctrl, Alt);
> Active only on focus
> The keyboard shortcut for a user interface component is only active when
> that component has focus.
>
> Thus technically the app you mention in your example fails. If they used a
> modifier of ctrl, alt or both, then this would pass. The challenge here of
> course is to select something that does not impact the user agent.
>
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
> Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
> Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
> Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
> Digital Systems Launch Page
> Accessibility Single source of Truth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Sumit Patel
> Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:29 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
>
> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be
> cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
>
> Could you please give me an example of this SC for better understanding
> with URL
>
> On 25/05/2020, Murphy, Sean < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > This still would pass. The screen reader user has the ability of
> > by-passing the keystroke. As the letter 'k' supports non-screen readers
> as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sean Murphy | Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra
> > Digital Channels | Digital Systems
> > Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch
> > Page Accessibility Single source of Truth
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> > Sumit Patel
> > Sent: Monday, 25 May 2020 2:12 PM
> > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > Subject: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> >
> > [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation –
> > be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I have come up with a doubt regarding 2.1.4 character key shortcuts .
> > Could you please give me a good example of 2.1.4 SC.
> >
> > In youtube, the letter "K" is the shortcut for play / Pause. In NVDA ,
> "K"
> > will take you to the next link. So, if you press "K" in youtube , it
> > will take you to the next link rather than activating the Play / Pause
> > button. Is it a violation?
> >
> > In Deque university, when we doing the course, "Alt + Ctrl + N " is
> > the command to go to the next page. But, if you are using NVDA, with
> > the provided key command, it will restart NVDA. It won't take you to
> > the next page.
> > What about it?
> >
> > Please help me.
> > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > > > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 11:35:48 -0600
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] 2.1.4 Character key short cuts
> The youtube example would fail because it uses simple (unmodified) keys as
> shortcuts and the keys work no matter where you are on the page. If I tab
> to the comment area or the "up next" section in youtube and press K, the
> video plays or pauses. If the K key only worked when the video itself had
> focus, then it would pass because that's "Active only on focus". Since
> youtube doesn't have a way to turn off the keyboard shortcuts nor a way to
> remap the letters, it fails.
>
> Gmail (web interface), on the other hand, has a settings for turning on/off
> shortcut keys so it passes.
>
> > > > >