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From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Aug 10, 2020 2:14PM

Hello,
I am able to get the row and column numbers when entering the table.
You're right, I'm not seeing how to add a caption to the table. I avoid
captions, as I find them rather annoying, and put the information in the
text above the table, but it should be extremely easy to add a caption
property. If you open an issue at:
https://github.com/vaadin/vaadin/issues
I think it should be added pretty quickly.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:58 PM bobby accessibility <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
>
> Thanks for the Table structure you have provided in the shared link, I have
> checked this and found its not following the basic properties of Table-
> like , No caption was there , when I navigated to the Table no matrix
> (table structure Rows* Columns) was introduced to screen reader.
>
> Also I am keen to know, is this responsive ? will it work same for desktop
> as well as on smart devices (mobile , Tab etc)
>
> I have tested this on FF 79 using NVDA 2020.0.1
>
> Appreciate your reply on my queries.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Bob
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:56 AM Brandon Keith Biggs <
> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Look at:
> > https://vaadin.com/components/vaadin-grid/html-examples
> > Their grid allows both table key command navigation as well as cursor
> > navigation through the cells. I believe their table also scrolls.
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:49 PM Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > > We have developers who for reasons such as continuous scrolling from
> the
> > > bottom using ARIA Grid controls since apparently tables do not allow
> for
> > > automatic scrolling. So, are there ways to use grids using table
> commands
> > > in the same way?
> > >
> > > Currently Grids don't even show up as any of the JAWS form elements and
> > > you can only use cursor keys within the Grid. This really limits the
> JAWS
> > > user from having any kind of pleasant experience with these grids. Are
> > > there ways to make these grids more usable to a screen reader?
> Especially
> > > since ARIA-Grid is out there and has several table attributes. Thank in
> > > advance for reading and maybe giving this some thought.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program
> > Office
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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