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Re: Query regarding scrolling Issue when accessing webpage with browse mode

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Aug 3, 2021 12:39PM


Does the page scroll if you use only arrow keys and screen reader
shortcut keys (like h, b, f etc.) to navigate a page?
When I demo something with a screen reader I always seem to require
using the tab key to navigate to a focusable element I am
demonstrating, else people often don't see my location on the page and
sometimes don't even see the content I am navigating (the first is
obviously just focus outline, but the second suggests to me that
virtual buffer scrolling that does not involve moving the actual focus
with the tab key is totally independent of the browser).


On 8/3/21, Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hm, but * web pages * do scroll with browse mode in JAWS, NVDA and Orca (and
> I recall back when Firefox did NOT scroll for Orca... people on the Orca
> mailing list asked about it and eventually it got fixed, though I think the
> fix had to be on Mozilla's side...).
>
> But I'm not sure if moving around a data grid has the same trigger as a page
> scroll, so it sounds like Birkir is right about why it's not scrolling: the
> browser doesn't "see" the virtual cursor in that, meaning the widget can't
> react.
>
> _mallory
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
>> A screen reader createsw an off-screen model (aka virtual buffer) with
>> the page content. In browse mode you are solely interacting with that
>> content so you are not sending events to the webpage (not unless yuou
>> do something in the virtual buffer that submits an event to the page,
>> e.g. pressing the tab key to change the programmatic focus or interact
>> with/click on an element).
>>
>> There were ideas about a more interactive browse mode (e.g. the ARIA
>> 1.1 proposed implementation of implementing a feed using the feed and
>> article roles) but I believe that feature was never supported by
>> screen reader vendors.
>>
>> On 8/3/21, Gupta, Gaurav k via WebAIM-Forum
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > Hello Experts,
>> >
>> > Need help in understanding the issue.
>> >
>> > Using JAWS browse mode if I am trying to read the data from a grid then
>> > auto
>> > scrolling is not happening.
>> >
>> > Can anyone suggest what could be the reason?
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Gaurav
>> >
>> >
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