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Re: Query regarding scrolling Issue when accessing webpage with browse mode

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From: Mallory
Date: Aug 6, 2021 10:53AM

Yeah, the pages scroll. Although maybe it matters that I have some visual stuff set "on" in JAWS and NVDA: I see highlights with JAWS and I think I have an old add-on to NVDA which does the same (it's good for demoing).

Although it's not uncommon for the virtual focus to go offscreen a bit, but if I keep going the page will scroll. This sometimes happens to me with regular keyboard focus too, but always eventually I get a page scroll.

cheers,
_mallory

On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> Does the page scroll if you use only arrow keys and screen reader
> shortcut keys (like h, b, f etc.) to navigate a page?
> When I demo something with a screen reader I always seem to require
> using the tab key to navigate to a focusable element I am
> demonstrating, else people often don't see my location on the page and
> sometimes don't even see the content I am navigating (the first is
> obviously just focus outline, but the second suggests to me that
> virtual buffer scrolling that does not involve moving the actual focus
> with the tab key is totally independent of the browser).
>
>
> On 8/3/21, Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > Hm, but * web pages * do scroll with browse mode in JAWS, NVDA and Orca (and
> > I recall back when Firefox did NOT scroll for Orca... people on the Orca
> > mailing list asked about it and eventually it got fixed, though I think the
> > fix had to be on Mozilla's side...).
> >
> > But I'm not sure if moving around a data grid has the same trigger as a page
> > scroll, so it sounds like Birkir is right about why it's not scrolling: the
> > browser doesn't "see" the virtual cursor in that, meaning the widget can't
> > react.
> >
> > _mallory
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> >> A screen reader createsw an off-screen model (aka virtual buffer) with
> >> the page content. In browse mode you are solely interacting with that
> >> content so you are not sending events to the webpage (not unless yuou
> >> do something in the virtual buffer that submits an event to the page,
> >> e.g. pressing the tab key to change the programmatic focus or interact
> >> with/click on an element).
> >>
> >> There were ideas about a more interactive browse mode (e.g. the ARIA
> >> 1.1 proposed implementation of implementing a feed using the feed and
> >> article roles) but I believe that feature was never supported by
> >> screen reader vendors.
> >>
> >> On 8/3/21, Gupta, Gaurav k via WebAIM-Forum
> >> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >> > Hello Experts,
> >> >
> >> > Need help in understanding the issue.
> >> >
> >> > Using JAWS browse mode if I am trying to read the data from a grid then
> >> > auto
> >> > scrolling is not happening.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone suggest what could be the reason?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Gaurav
> >> >
> >> >
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