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From: Lucy GRECO
Date: Sep 23, 2021 11:12AM

Hello IF THAT IS THE CASE WE NEED TO GET ON THE W3C TO FIX THE DEFANISHIONS
IN SILVER. YES I DO THINK THAT A 2 COLUME TABLE SOME TIMES DOES NOT NEED
ROW HEADERS BUT THEY ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS DO HELP
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces



On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:00 AM Jerra Strong < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Lucy,
>
> One reason I can see contributing to this is automated accessibility
> checkers tend to only check tables for column headers, and consider a table
> with any column headers "good", even if the table isn't structured all that
> well. And depending on the table, whether row headers should or should not
> be used can be a judgement call based on the content.
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:12 PM Lucy GRECO < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > yes glen i agree like i said about have of the tables i see have good
> > col headings but only one i have worked with a lot has row headings
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Accessibility Evangelist
> > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:48 PM glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting. So if I do my basic math and divide 1.5 million tables
> by 1
> > > million home pages, that's 1.5 tables on the home page on average. I
> > don't
> > > recall seeing tables on home pages very often. It would be interesting
> > to
> > > see how many real data tables there are on home pages.
> > >
> > > Anecdotally, Lucy, I'm finding more and more data tables with column
> > > headings but I rarely find any row headings. Row headings are so
> useful
> > > when navigating down a column with a screen reader.
> > >
> > > Glen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >