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From: Jerra Strong
Date: Oct 7, 2021 4:04PM

Due to popular demand, this has been posted at Adobe UserVoice. Should
Adobe provide a way to create accessible PDFs from the web? Vote now on
your phones!

https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/931921-acrobat-in-chrome/suggestions/44257476-print-to-accessible-pdf

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 2:01 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Jerra, that's a terrific idea that should be logged at
> www.Acrobat.UserVoice.com <http://www.Acrobat.UserVoice.com>;
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> Adobe could design its browser plugins to recognize the tags and DOM of a
> webpage to create a Print-to-PDF version that retains the accessibility.
> Nothing preventing any other PDF-creation software from doing this, too,
> such as FoxIt and CairoGraphics.
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> When you post at UserVoice, let us know on the list so we can vote for the
> feature.
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> From: Jerra Strong < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:34 PM
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> Bevi speaks the truth. What if they want to keep a second copy for their
> reference? Personally, I would like to see a straightforward way to get a
> tagged pdf from (already tagged and structured) HTML content become the
> norm.
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> On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 10:47 AM < <EMAIL REMOVED> <mailto:
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> Seconding this method Jerra S suggests:
> " you could have them fill the form online, and then generate an
> already-filled PDF, which is okay that it's print-only, because they are
> just going to print it and stick it in an envelope."
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> PDFs for print are exempt from accessibility requirements.
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> However, it would be much more beneficial and useful to users if it was
> digitally accessible as well.
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] print to PDF functionality and accessibility
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> Depends on what you want that end-user to be doing with the PDF.
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> The "print to PDF" function is pretty much guaranteed to make a print-only
> PDF with no tags, so you would have to have some separate tool that
> generates a PDF which is meeting the standards you want, or provide an
> already-created PDF for download at some link. Or, you could have them
> fill the form online, and then generate an already-filled PDF, which is
> okay that it's print-only, because they are just going to print it and
> stick it in an envelope.
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> On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 10:32 AM Logan Trafford < <EMAIL REMOVED>
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> > Bit of an odd question perhaps and I'll try to describe the scenario
> > as distinctly as possible.
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> > Our developers have created an accessible HTML payment form.
> > There are two options
> > 1. continue to pay online, which takes the user to a 3rd party payment
> > tool.
> > 2. select the option to mail in the payment, with the form filled in
> > and printed off.
> >
> > As stated, the HTML form itself is WCAG conformant, BUT if a user
> > decides to save (or print) as PDF, is there any way to control the PDF
> > that is generated automatically? In other words, currently it is a
> > non-accessible PDF that is produced.
> > Is there another step in the process that we would need to invoke
> somehow?
> >
> > thanks in advance for any thoughts or input.
> >
> > Logan
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