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From: David Farough
Date: May 18, 2023 11:12AM

Hi Clare;
I have been looking into this further.
I have checked prior releases of Jaws.
The release for Jaws 2022 which came out in November 2022 does work as expected with the ARIA tab examples.
I think at this point I will stop using the incremental updates for Jaws and download each new release instead. At least this way I can revert to the previous release if necessary.
I can't help but wonder if the previous update Prior to the April update was broken as well.

Also I looked into the Virtual cursor setting that Robin mentioned for chrome. This did not fix the issue, but it does sound like a handy thing for Chrome users who want to maintain their virtual cursor settings for a particular application.
Thanks
David
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I have auto forms mode set to auto as well, and I get the same experience with ARIA tablists, of not automatically entering forms mode when tabbing to one with JAWS. I just hit Enter when focused on one of the tabs and that triggers forms mode. From there things work as expected. I feel like it has behaved this way for some time for me.

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:31 PM David Farough < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> Thanks for the link.
>
> When I tab to the tabs list I do not hear the sound to indicate the
> switch to focus mode.
> Pressing Insert + z does turn off the virtual cursor,and then I can
> move from tab to tab using the right or left arrow keys. The tab
> panel does change when the focus changes But when tabbing to the
> active panel, I cannot read the content unless I turn on the virtual
> cursor again using insert + z.
> I do have my auto forms mode setting set to auto (the default). .
>
> Maybe it's time to repair Jaws.
>
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> Practices document with current Jaws behaviour
>
> Both JAWS and NVDA are working ok for me on Chrome and Firefox. I hear
> an audible change when I TAB (key) to the tablist because it
> automatically switches between browse mode and forms mode (or whatever
> your favorite terms are for the two modes). I get the same audible
> sound when tabbing to an input field.
>
> I'm using the default settings in both screen readers which is
> automatic switching between modes. As Jonathan said, you can switch
> modes manually with Ins+Z for JAWS and Ins+space for NVDA.
>
> Here is a partial list of when the mode should automatically switch.
>
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> input element is not in that list because it doesn't require focus
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