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Re: [iOS app] acctivate button inside tile

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From: David Farough
Date: Nov 22, 2023 6:44AM

I am only guessing here, but if an additional swipe takes you to the button, then it should be reachable using the right arrow key.

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From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Graham Armfield
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 7:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [iOS app] acctivate button inside tile

Hi All,

I know the discussion so far has focused on Voiceover users and differentiating between multiple interactive elements. But I'm also wondering about the experience for keyboard users who have hooked up their Bluetooth keyboards to their iPhone. How do they differentiate between the items?

Regards
Graham Armfield
Coolfields Consulting

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, 6:14 pm Malthe Jepsen, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> That's an excellent question. For what it's worth I love the
> flexibility of VoiceOver actions in the rotor, as it minimizes the
> amount of elements in the focus order, which makes navigation through
> dynamic content, such as a feed, much more efficient, as it requires les swipes per new item.
> I would advocate for including the secondary actions, such as "add to
> favorites", in the rotor.
> Lots of other apps do this, including Apple's own phone and mail apps.
> Regarding your question about it being announced late in the reading flow:
> This is VoiceOver standard behaviour, so hopefully the user will catch
> it or attempt engaging the rotor. You can also add an accessibility
> hint to the item in question to emphasize that the rotor can be used here.
> Keep in mind that this is just my personal opinion.
>
> Best
> Malthe
> > On 20 Nov 2023, at 14.02, Bart Simons < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We test the accessibility of an iOS app. There are tiles with a
> relatively long information. You click the tile to perform an action.
> But the tile also contains a button that triggers a different action
> such as an "Info" icon that provides more information or an asterisk
> to mark as favorite.
> >
> > The developers have grouped the information so that VoiceOver reads
> > the
> whole tile content in one go and no need for multiple swipe actions to
> read the tile's content. This is helpful as not to loose context.
> >
> > But the developers say that they don't know to make the button
> > inside
> the tile accessible. Ideally it can be reached with the next swipe but
> developers say they cannot focus a button that is part of a tile that
> in itself is clickable.
> >
> > Is there really no way to do that?
> >
> > They propose to add a custom action to the tile. Swiping down with
> VoiceOver would then provide access to "more info" or "mark as favorite".
> >
> > I have a few remarks on this:
> > VoiceOver announces the existence of custom actions only after
> > reading
> the relatively long information in the tile. It is very likely that a
> VoiceOVer user will not listen until the end and thus not discover the
> message that custom actions are available.
> >
> > I think that custom actions are meant as shortcuts to provide quick
> access to actions that also can be performed in another way. Is it
> acceptable that a function is only available through a custom action?
> >
> > Do you know of a better soulution to, on the one hand group
> > information
> in a clickable tile but on the other hand also provide access to a
> button inside the tile?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Bart Simons
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