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From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: May 16, 2013 1:29PM

Adobe has a white paper that teaches how to use JAWS and Window-Eyes.
http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/pdfs/accessing-pdf-sr.pdf

Very helpful for developers so that they become familiar with JAWS and how
it is used.
But as someone else said, real testing should be done by a JAWS user. We
developers can only test the "light" stuff.

As a developer/designer, I use JAWS throughout development to test reading
order, make sure that the document structure is correct, and that graphics
and their Alt-text read correctly. Especially helpful when dealing with very
complex designs, such as multiple column layouts in Word/InDesign/PDFs,
tables, sidebars, etc. I can quickly find errors and fix them before the
document goes to the reviewer/tester.

Testing navigation issues, headings, etc. is best done by a skilled JAWS
tester, not me!

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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Akshi Kakar
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:57 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA

Susan,
I am going to be involved in testing our compatibility with JAWS but have
never tested with it before. How would you suggest we teach ourselves this
process of testing? I have used the demo version of JAWS to test before but
I am guessing the actual testing should be more rigorous.

Thanks,
Akshi

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Grossman [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:32 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Another example of role="alert" not being read by NVDA

Wasn't suggesting JAWS as a permanent testing tool. But if you don't have
it, i do recommend testing with it on a single item or two, and then
considering purchasing it when you see it handles differently than NVDA.

Didn't mention the time limit specifically because I don't advocate it as a
testing tool. Do own my a personal copy, and have gotten many corporations
to purchase it, after showing them how important it is in testing - by
getting them to try testing with the trial.

If companies never try it for testing, and never see how they would benefit
from purchasing it, they won't buy it. That's what a trial is.

If I've misinterpreted what trial means, and what the license for long-term
testing is saying, tell me.