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From: webmaster
Date: Jul 31, 2003 5:17PM

Sorry if I came off the wrong way.
Looking at the table, I can see no reason for there for be a colspan of 85 because there aren't even 85 columns in the table.
Still, forms should not be placed in tables anyway, IMO.

Karl

>> You're right, of course. But that's what I was asking. Why was the form >> set up like it is.
>> A programmer, no longer here, set them up that way.
>> I also agree the form is not accessible.

>> I was simply trying to discover if there was something I was overlooking
>> with the colspan="85",
>> colspan="21", etc. thing.

>> Thanks for responding-- I do appreciate it.




>> At 01:03 PM 7/31/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>> >I think the bigger question is why is this thing setup the way it is?
>> >colspan="85"?
>> >Are you trying to incorrectly hardcode the width?
>> >
>> >Also, why the use of <strong>? You're trying to make bold text. Ask
>> >yourself: "Should this be a heading?"
>> >If it is presentation you're trying to achieve with <strong>, might I
>> >suggest CSS? <span style="font-weight: bold;">blah</span>
>> >
>> >
>> >Since this is not tabular data, but rather a form, you should remake the >> >whole thing.
>> >Here's a start. Don't forget to label your form elements with their
>> labels.
>> >Use CSS to play with margin for each of these DIVs
>> >
>> ><h1 align="center">TITLE</h1>
>> >
>> >
>> ><div>TODAY'S DATE<br />
>> ><input class="input" title="Today's Date" value="January 22, 2003"
>> >name="TODAYS_DATE" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>REQUESTED BY (Name) <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Name Here"
>> >name="REQUESTED_BY" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>DIVISION<br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Division Here"
>> >name="DIVISION" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>EXTENSION <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Extension Here"
>> >name="EXTENSION" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>EMAIL<br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Email Address Here"
>> >name="Requestor_Email" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>AUTHOR (BOOK) <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Author Information Here"
>> >name="BOOK_AUTHOR" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>TITLE (BOOK OR JOURNAL) <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Book or Journal Title "
>> >name="BOOK_TITLE" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>PUBLISHER <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Article Publisher Here"
>> >name="ARTICLE_PUBLISHER" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>VOLUME<br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Publisher Here"
>> >name="PUBLISHER" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>YEAR <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Year Published In Here"
>> >name="YEAR" type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>EDITION <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Edition Here" name="EDITION"
>> type="text"
>> >/>
>> ></div>
>> ><div>PRICE <br />
>> > <input class="input" title="Enter Price Here" name="PRICE"
>> type="text" />
>> ></div>
>> ><div>
>> > <input title="Submit Request"
>> >type="text" value="Submit Request" name="Submit" />
>> ></div>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >> Every time I see this table I wonder why the colspan is designated
>>
>> > so much
>> > >>
>> > >> larger than what it
>> > >> actually is.
>> >
>> > >> Is there a reason for a table to be coded in this manner? When I >> > insert
>> > >> the actual number of
>> > >> columns in "colspan", the table looks the same.
>> >
>> > >> Am so curious. Any ideas?
>> >
>> > >> Here's the code:
>> >
>> >
>> > >> <table title="Suggest a Title" cellspacing="0" width="90%"
>> border="0">
>> > >> <tbody>
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td title="Title" colspan="85">
>> > >> <h1 align="center">TITLE</h1>
>> > >> </td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td title="Today's Date" colspan="85"><span
>> > >> class="smaller">&#160;<strong>TODAY'S DATE</strong></span><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Today's Date" value="January 22, 2003"
>> > >> name="TODAYS_DATE" /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Requestor's Name"
>> > >> colspan="36"><strong>REQUESTED
>> > >> BY (Name)</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Name Here" size="22"
>> > >> name="REQUESTED_BY" /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Division"
>> > >> colspan="12"><strong>DIVISION</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Division Here"
>> size="10"
>> > >> name="DIVISION" /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Extension"
>> > >> colspan="12"><strong>EXTENSION</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Extension Here" >> > size="10"
>> > >> name="EXTENSION" /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Email"
>> > colspan="24"><strong>EMAIL</strong><br
>> > >> />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Requestor's Email Address Here"
>> > >> size="23"
>> > >> name="Requestor_Email" /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Enter Author"
>> colspan="85"><strong>AUTHOR
>> > >> (BOOK)</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Author Information Here"
>> size="70"
>> > >> name="BOOK_AUTHOR" /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Enter Book or Journal Title"
>> > >> colspan="85"><strong>TITLE (BOOK OR JOURNAL)</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Book or Journal Title "
>> > size="70" >> name="BOOK_TITLE" /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Publisher"
>> > >> colspan="85"><strong>PUBLISHER</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Article Publisher Here"
>> > size="70" >> name="ARTICLE_PUBLISHER" /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Publisher"
>> > >> colspan="42"><strong>VOLUME</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Publisher Here" size="10"
>> > >> name="PUBLISHER" /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Year Published In"
>> > >> colspan="14"><strong>YEAR</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Year Published In Here"
>> > size="10" >> name="YEAR" /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Edition"
>> > >> colspan="14"><strong>EDITION</strong><br />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Edition Here" size="10"
>> > name="EDITION"
>> > >> /></td>
>> > >> <td class="smaller" title="Price"
>> > colspan="14"><strong>PRICE</strong><br
>> > >> />
>> > >> <input class="input" title="Enter Price Here" size="10"
>> name="PRICE"
>> > >> /></td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> >
>> > >> <tr>
>> > >> <td title="SubmitButton" colspan="85"><input title="Submit
>> > Request" >> type="submit" value="Submit Request" name="Submit" />
>> </td>
>> > >> </tr>
>> > >> </table>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >> Laurie Davis-Covin, Web Specialist/Writer
>> > >> National Institute of Standards and Technology
>> > >> 100 Bureau Drive
>> > >> Admin. Building, Room E 220
>> > >> Gaithersburg, MD 20899
>> > >> Ph: 301-975-8027
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>> >Karl Groves
>> >
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>> Laurie Davis-Covin, Writer/Editor
>> National Institute of Standards and Technology
>> 100 Bureau Drive
>> Admin. Building, Room E 220
>> Gaithersburg, MD 20899
>> Ph: 301-975-8027





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Karl Groves

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PunkRockShows
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