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From: chagnon@pubcom.com
Date: Feb 6, 2018 3:45PM

Lisa wrote: "Any other weird stuff you have found with PPT to PDF?"

Ha! The entire process is one weird experience! My top weird-oddities are:

1. Never make your own template from scratch. Instead, take one of their existing templates or sample PPTs and hack it.

2. Of course, follow MS's guidelines here, https://support.office.com/en-us/article/make-your-powerpoint-presentations-accessible-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25 but note that this doesn't work well.

3. When your bullets don't export as L/LI tags, copy/paste a bullet list from one of MS's accessible PPT files and then re-style the content to fit your design. See: https://templates.office.com/en-us/Accessible-Template-Sampler-TM16401472?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US Use any of the accessible templates from the Download button in the upper half of the page, not the lower PPTs.

4. Controlling the Order in the PPT doesn't always produce the reading order you want in the PDF. My shop has given up trying to figure out a workaround for this one.

--Bevi

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of L Snider
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:33 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] couple of questions

Hi Bevi,

I also love InDesign now (2018), but one major issue I found...Not everyone has had this happen, but Adobe has apparently officially made it a bug, as I was one of a few who experienced this issue. I use the newest version of InDesign and Acrobat, and when we convert from InDesign using Export with tags enabled (Print or Interactive), all the headings and paragraphs turn into spans. This only shows in the TURO in Acrobat, and yet the tags panel is normal. I told them in October and have not seen any change yet, but am hoping it happens soon. It is a total pain, if you like the TURO and want to use it to fix tags. I am going to follow up with them, because I find this to be a major problem in my work.

Like we needed more bugs! Any other weird stuff you have found with PPT to PDF?

Cheers

Lisa





On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Terzian, Sharon < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > ... I was just really wondering if it started off fine/accessible as
> > a
> Power
> > Point, would it still be okay when converted?
>
> Exporting a PDF from a correctly constructed PowerPoint file will be
> better than the complex mess you currently have. But it won't be perfect.
>
> The PPT to accessible PDF workflow has some shortcomings and also some
> tragic bugs that were recently introduced by either Microsoft or Adobe
> (such as lists coming out as P tags).
>
> But no matter how well you construct the PPT, you'll still have a
> myriad of graphic parts to artifact manually in Acrobat after the PDF
> is made because there is no way to label anything as an artifact in PPT.
>
> You will, however, be able to improve the reading orders.
>
> One idea: we've moved many of our presentations to Adobe InDesign
> where we have micro-control on everything and can export a perfect (or
> very nearly
> perfect) accessible PDF that looks like a PowerPoint...but better!
>
> --Bevi
>
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> Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | <EMAIL REMOVED> — — —
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> training ' development ' design ' sec. 508 services Upcoming classes
> at www.PubCom.com/classes — — —
>
>
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