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From: L Snider
Date: Feb 6, 2018 3:54PM

Bevi, I knew you would say that! LOL

Thanks for clarifying the template, I didn't mention that above.

I haven't had the List into Paragraph issue yet, all my lists have been
okay. Is this a Windows bug? I am working on both, and on my Mac it seems
okay. However, I am also the one with the InDesign bug, so maybe I am lucky
in one thing and not the other!

Love the tip about the copying the bullet list from an accessible PPT
template, thanks! That is a major time saver.

Cheers

Lisa

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 4:45 PM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Lisa wrote: "Any other weird stuff you have found with PPT to PDF?"
>
> Ha! The entire process is one weird experience! My top weird-oddities are:
>
> 1. Never make your own template from scratch. Instead, take one of their
> existing templates or sample PPTs and hack it.
>
> 2. Of course, follow MS's guidelines here, https://support.office.com/en-
> us/article/make-your-powerpoint-presentations-
> accessible-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25 but note that this
> doesn't work well.
>
> 3. When your bullets don't export as L/LI tags, copy/paste a bullet list
> from one of MS's accessible PPT files and then re-style the content to fit
> your design. See: https://templates.office.com/en-us/Accessible-Template-
> Sampler-TM16401472?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US Use any of the accessible
> templates from the Download button in the upper half of the page, not the
> lower PPTs.
>
> 4. Controlling the Order in the PPT doesn't always produce the reading
> order you want in the PDF. My shop has given up trying to figure out a
> workaround for this one.
>
> --Bevi
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of L Snider
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:33 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] couple of questions
>
> Hi Bevi,
>
> I also love InDesign now (2018), but one major issue I found...Not
> everyone has had this happen, but Adobe has apparently officially made it a
> bug, as I was one of a few who experienced this issue. I use the newest
> version of InDesign and Acrobat, and when we convert from InDesign using
> Export with tags enabled (Print or Interactive), all the headings and
> paragraphs turn into spans. This only shows in the TURO in Acrobat, and yet
> the tags panel is normal. I told them in October and have not seen any
> change yet, but am hoping it happens soon. It is a total pain, if you like
> the TURO and want to use it to fix tags. I am going to follow up with them,
> because I find this to be a major problem in my work.
>
> Like we needed more bugs! Any other weird stuff you have found with PPT to
> PDF?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Terzian, Sharon < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
> >
> > > ... I was just really wondering if it started off fine/accessible as
> > > a
> > Power
> > > Point, would it still be okay when converted?
> >
> > Exporting a PDF from a correctly constructed PowerPoint file will be
> > better than the complex mess you currently have. But it won't be perfect.
> >
> > The PPT to accessible PDF workflow has some shortcomings and also some
> > tragic bugs that were recently introduced by either Microsoft or Adobe
> > (such as lists coming out as P tags).
> >
> > But no matter how well you construct the PPT, you'll still have a
> > myriad of graphic parts to artifact manually in Acrobat after the PDF
> > is made because there is no way to label anything as an artifact in PPT.
> >
> > You will, however, be able to improve the reading orders.
> >
> > One idea: we've moved many of our presentations to Adobe InDesign
> > where we have micro-control on everything and can export a perfect (or
> > very nearly
> > perfect) accessible PDF that looks like a PowerPoint...but better!
> >
> > --Bevi
> >
> > — — —
> > Bevi Chagnon, founder/CEO | <EMAIL REMOVED> — — —
> > PubCom: Technologists for Accessible Design + Publishing consulting '
> > training ' development ' design ' sec. 508 services Upcoming classes
> > at www.PubCom.com/classes — — —
> >
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