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From: paul.creedy
Date: Jul 22, 2004 9:46AM

I don't know about US or worldwide figures, but in the UK the RNIB at www.rnib.org.uk may be able to help you with stats.
 
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WebAIM Discussion List Digest 22.07.2004.------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: total number of screen readersDate: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:41:46 -0600Hey. I am currently doing research for my company for an article about web accessibility. I need a ballpark figure of how many people (US or worldwide) use screen reader software. I tried asking GW Micro for their sales figures, but they wouldn't tell me. i have also asked the makers of JAWS, but that figure would not be very accurate, since there are so many other screen readers out there. Does anybody know where I could find an estimate of the total number of people who use screen readers?Gary------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Re: Flash
intoDate: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:59:04 -0600I would suggest having your index page be something that has 2 links: &quot;flash&quot; and &quot;non-flash&quot;, then they click either link they want.------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:00:40 -0600I have an interesting delima.&amp;nbsp; I am working on a new web site for our organization and am including a site map.&amp;nbsp; My problem is this:&amp;nbsp; Within major sections of the site which provide resources relating to different programs that we sponsor I have subnavigation menus that are very similar.&amp;nbsp; A program may include training so there is a link to training for example.&amp;nbsp; This does not pose a problem for the pages within the section.&amp;nbsp; However when those links are listed within the site map there is an issue - several links that say
&quot;training.&quot;&amp;nbsp;Bobby correctly flagged this problem as a violation of WCAG 13.1.&amp;nbsp;A visitor using a screen reader who visits the site map then uses the link list feature of their browser will be confused by the duplicate named links.&amp;nbsp; However, to add the program name to all of the links relating to that program would likely be very annoying as well.&amp;nbsp;Any suggestions from this group?&amp;nbsp;Thanks,&amp;nbsp;Mike Moore------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Re: Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:14:42 -0600I tend to do this with the &quot;training&quot; link being visible and the program name wrapped in a &amp;lt;span class=&quot;hidden&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;.&amp;nbsp; Unfortunately Jaws honors display:none so that doesn't
work.hidden{width:1px;position:absolute;left:0;top:-100px;height:1px;overflow:hidden;}&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;a href=&quot;&quot;&amp;gt;Training &amp;lt;span class=&quot;hidden&quot;&amp;gt;for Program&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;Sandra ClarkFrom: mmoore [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:00 PMTo: WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: [WebAIM] Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1I have an interesting delima.&amp;nbsp; I am working on a new web site for our organization and am including a site map.&amp;nbsp; My problem is this:&amp;nbsp; Within major sections of the site which provide resources relating to different programs that we sponsor I have subnavigation menus that are very similar.&amp;nbsp; A program may include training so there is a link to training for example.&amp;nbsp; This does not pose a problem for the pages within the section.&amp;nbsp; However when those links are listed within the site map there is an issue -
several links that say &quot;training.&quot;&amp;nbsp;Bobby correctly flagged this problem as a violation of WCAG 13.1.&amp;nbsp;A visitor using a screen reader who visits the site map then uses the link list feature of their browser will be confused by the duplicate named links.&amp;nbsp; However, to add the program name to all of the links relating to that program would likely be very annoying as well.&amp;nbsp;Any suggestions from this group?&amp;nbsp;Thanks,&amp;nbsp;Mike Moore------------------------------------------------------------------------From: <EMAIL REMOVED> ject: Re: Site Map, Bobby, and WCAG 13.1Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:31:58 -0600check out the new article on the Webaim website:An Accessible Method of Hiding HTML Content