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From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Date: Nov 30, 2017 1:20AM

If amCharts solves this problem, then worth exploring it. PayPal's
Accessibility team has built an accessibility plugin for amCharts a few
years ago. Please refer
https://www.amcharts.com/accessibility/accessible-charts/

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED>
> wrote:

> I am not familiar with either of those tools, but I don't think there is
> (or can be) a solution at the moment. Some content simply can't be
> represented using the HTML elements and attributes that we currently have.
>
> For a simple organisation I think a nested list would be the closest you
> can get semantically, but I'm not at all sure a screen reader user would be
> able to make sense of it. It would be interesting to run some user tests.
>
> Personally, I don't feel obliged to solve every problem a client comes to
> us with. I simply tell them it's not possible if I really think that is the
> case after considering all the options.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: 30 November 2017 00:36
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible org charts
>
> steev thanks for the reply kinda makes me ask then what is the tools
> that are makeing the inaccessable ones doing i e. pitcktochart and tablo i
> am looking for more accessable answers to these tools more then any thing
> because i can't just say don't use the inaccessable tool i need to say what
> to use insted
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of California,
> Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> .
> uk
> > wrote:
>
> > The root cause of this problem is that there is not a universally
> > agreed set of semantics for an organisational chart. Or if there is,
> > I'm not aware of it.
> >
> > Some aspects of the structure of an org chart correspond to a nested
> > list, such as parent and child relationships and groups of people at
> > the same level. However, other aspects do not correspond to any HTML
> > semantics. For instance, two subordinates of one person may be at
> > different levels of seniority (and hence shown at different vertical
> > positions in the org
> > chart) even though they are both one step removed from the same person.
> >
> > Also, org charts often have sideways relationships that may mean
> > various things and there can be complex relationships such as when a
> > person has "dotted line" responsibilities to people other than their
> line manager.
> >
> > Until there is an agreed set of semantics for all these relationships,
> > it will not be possible to represent the chart in HTML in a way that
> > people will understand, and it's very possible that new HTML semantics
> > would need to be created.
> >
> > Steve Green
> > Managing Director
> > Test Partners Ltd
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On
> > Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> > Sent: 29 November 2017 18:32
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible org charts
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > We have been seeing a lot of progress in the world of data access with
> > products like High Charts <https://www.highcharts.com/> and some of
> > the products I am working with from Progressive Access <
> > https://progressiveaccess.com/projects.php>. But the one thing I am
> > missing that is in big demand is an accessible "organizational chart"
> > (org
> > chart) tool. Does anyone have ideas on where we can find something to
> > help produce an accessible org chart?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lucy
> >
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Accessibility Evangelist
> > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration University of
> > California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
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