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Re: Acrobat PDF and tables


From: L Snider
Date: Oct 6, 2021 6:21AM

There was a US lawsuit a while back where the web developer was sued
with the company...I do wonder how long it is going to take to get a
lawsuit over this that involves Adobe, as they are failing to provide
basic accessibility things we use to make PDFs accessible? Not just
Adobe, but any other program that makes PDFs. It is 2021, why were we
doing better in 2006?

I have voted, and have encouraged others as well. However, why do we
have to vote on a basic human right???? Adobe has to change their
culture, because as soon as EPUB can be read in any browser, I will
ensure everyone I work with uses EPUBs...So many years of fighting for
this, and yet here we are again. I do know that Adobe is doing testing
and has experts who work with them to try and sort out issues before
they go live. I know things happen, but this is a SERIOUS huge issue,
why is it not their first priority? I am very frustrated with them,
after so many years of having to explain why PDFs are so complex to

If we can't move them in 2021 to do this without voting, then I do
wonder about their company culture.



On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:15 PM < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> For a detailed discussion about the table header error (and others), view this thread on the Adobe Acrobat Forums:
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-discussions/table-headers-fail-in-accessibility-checker-after-september-14-2021-update/td-p/12387020/page/3
> I didn't find any of the "correct answers" by Adobe's engineers to work, including the one to edit the Windows RegEdit and the FeatureState registry which will disable all checking of table headers.
> Seriously. We're encouraged to not check headers so that there isn't any failure of the headers. Wicked smart, eh?
> The problem is that Adobe PDF Maker is mis-tagging tables. Try my solution from my post on the forum today that uses Acrobat's Preflight utility.
> And please keep voting about this mess at UserVoice, https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/suggestions/44183082-accessibility-errors-with-pdf-maker-update-sept-20
> I have a sneaky feeling that because Adobe fixed one bug, they've let up on fixing the rest of them. Keep voting.
> Encourage your colleagues to vote.
> Get your dog and cat to vote, too.
> PS: I'll be covering this crapahola tagging in my PDF session at Accessing Higher Ground, details at https://accessinghigherground.org/checking-pdfs-for-pdf-ua-1-compliance-2/ .
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Liv Detrick
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 5:00 PM
> Subject: [WebAIM] Acrobat PDF and tables
> Hi all,
> I have a follow-up question to the recent thread about PDF creator. I have the updated version 2021.700…
> I am having trouble with tables and I'm not sure if this is a bug with Acrobat or something that I am doing wrong. I have documents in Microsoft Word that contain tables. When I export to PDF and run the Acrobat accessibility checker, I get the error "Headers - Failed"
> In Microsoft Word, under Acrobat, Preferences, I have "enable advanced tagging" checked.
> Under table properties, I have checked the box "Repeat as header row at the top of each page" for the header row.
> Is there anything else I need to adjust or is this likely an issue with Acrobat? I'm a newbie to creating accessible PDF documents and greatly appreciate your advice!
> Thanks,
> Liv
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